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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:41 pm    Post subject: Left trying to rekindle anti-Americanism with movie... Reply with quote

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/10/117_53081.html

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Authorities and American diplomats are concerned over the possibility that a recently-released movie depicting the 1997 Itaewon homicide by a Korean-American and the son of a U.S. soldier may fan the flames of anti-Americanism.

The concerns may be backed by the fact that the film has so far attracted more than 300,000 moviegoers.

Twelve years ago, a Korean American and the child of a U.S. soldier were tried for randomly killing a Korean college student in a restaurant in Itaewon, Seoul. They were eventually released from Korean prison...



Kind of reminds me of Virginia Tech for some reason.

If I saw the actor who played Arthur Patterson somewhere in Seoul, I'd be sure to "personally thank" him for his efforts in getting Koreans all riled-up in Anti-Americanism again -- in other words, he'd be getting a piece of my mind.

Seems no girls have been run over by tanks, and not enough meat has been sold, so "the left" has to dredge up something to try to get the USA out of here. I'm sure the "dear leader" would be proud of their efforts.
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redaxe



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I saw that, and I thought "Oh, a movie about a killing in Itaewon... I bet that has some extremely xenophobic undercurrents." And then I didn't go see it.
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cdninkorea



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd heard the motivation behind the movie was to kick start the investigation before the statute of limitations runs out (it amazes me that there's a statute of limitations for murder here).
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Aelric



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question, Bass: This event happened, right? It was a documented fact, correct? Well, why not make a movie out of it. I highly doubt that this is some left wing propaganda meant to rile up the world, it's just a movie.

I know Korea attracts a conservative crowd, and that is fine, but sweet Jesus, both sides are polarizing too damn much in recent years. I'm liberal and haven't eaten any babies yet. You are conservative, but I don't figure you drag minorities behind your truck. Sometimes a movie is just a movie and the left/right divide has nothing to do with it.

Now excuse me, I'm late to my leftest voodoo resurrection of Mao and Lenin zombies.
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oskinny1



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Left trying to rekindle anti-Americanism with movie... Reply with quote

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oskinny1



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Left trying to rekindle anti-Americanism with movie... Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:

If I saw the actor who played Arthur Patterson somewhere in Seoul, I'd be sure to "personally thank" him for his efforts in getting Koreans all riled-up in Anti-Americanism again -- in other words, he'd be getting a piece of my mind.


It appears that 2 men got off lightly for murder and one continued a life of crime after he fled from Korea. I don't see any reason why this case shouldn't be reviewed again.

If an individual is going to hate an entire country because their own justice system failed, that person had the hate way before they watched some movie.

Also, what does this have to do with V. Tech?
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that this movie will whip up that much of a frenzy. Anti-Americanism is pretty much a global phenomenon already, so a low-budget gawdy thriller flick isn't really going to have that much of an effect.
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socratesocks



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, it seems like people on the right are delusional everywhere. Part of the reason I left the States was to get away from the paranoid ramblings of the conservative base which dominate the media, and now, here it is. Anyway, this should be in the off-topic forum.
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.38 Special



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow, it seems like people on the right are delusional everywhere. Part of the reason I left the States was to get away from the paranoid ramblings of the conservative base which dominate the media, and now, here it is. Anyway, this should be in the off-topic forum.


We will follow you to the ends of the earth, stalking you like hungry lions, craving your yellow liberal blood... Razz


All art, all media, is political. This is political. Whether it is to incite anti-American sentiments or to create outrage over injustice is not particularly relevant. There will be a reaction from the audience, and their pre-existing prejudices will determine that reaction far more than the presentation of the material. But the fact remains that sentiments will be incited, and most likely that will be anti-Americanism as that is the fad these days.

But I doubt it will affect life in the RoK too much for American and American-looking (Caucasian) expatriates. Like all irrational, emotional knee-jerk reactions, there will be a flare of outrage and then banal life resumes.


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xingyiman



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

socratesocks wrote:
Part of the reason I left the States was to get away from the paranoid ramblings of the conservative base which dominate the media.


You must be kidding. The only news organization in America that is conservative is FOX. CNN, MSNBC, CBS, etc are all pretty much liberal.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No doubt the actor portraying the American is not American himself. I would be surprised if he were a citizen of any of the "Western Powers."
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
No doubt the actor portraying the American is not American himself. I would be surprised if he were a citizen of any of the "Western Powers."


Yep.

The one decent-ish American actor in an American role I saw was the guy in "Address Unknown"
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eamo



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time for Korea's two-yearly round of anti-Americanism. You can set your watch by it.

Nothing unites people more than hating someone else.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
I don't think that this movie will whip up that much of a frenzy. Anti-Americanism is pretty much a global phenomenon already, so a low-budget gawdy thriller flick isn't really going to have that much of an effect.


Having seen it, I completely agree. You folks are getting your panties in a wad about the potential for disaster when in the film itself, we see that the two perpetrators are clearly Korean. In fact, in the film, one of the young men speaks English through the movie and then horrifies the investigator when he speaks good Korean near the end of the film.

As it is, the film is very low-budget, full of inaccuracies, and even had some Russian/Slavic guy trying to act American through a thick accent. I was not impressed. It played like one of those Korean Saturday morning TV dramatization game shows.

The film actually portrays the shoddy cooperation between the Korean government agencies and how bureaucracy let the case slip through their hands. It also heroizes the main prosecutor in a way, when in real life he was one of the primary dolts that caused the whole case to fall through.
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djsmnc wrote:

As it is, the film is very low-budget, full of inaccuracies, and even had some Russian/Slavic guy trying to act American through a thick accent.


Or was he Irish? It sounded to me like he was mangling his lines.
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