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kidfromkorea
Joined: 05 Aug 2009
Location: Gangnam
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 Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:09 pm Post subject: legal to teach english with an online degree? |
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my aunt owns a hagwon in korea
and she said she'll hire me to teach at her place and told me to get any goddamn degree.
so ive researched and found what was the fastest way to get a degree and online degree popped up.
as long as i have a degree i'll be hired no problem i was just wondering if i'll have legal troubles if i was teaching english in korea with an online degree.
i know there are 2 types of online degree.
one is accredited and the other is this thing called "degree mill"
are both legal? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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If it's an accredited degree, that means you have to work for the degree. If you come over here with a diploma mill rag, I hope you get caught and go to jail. Visa fraud is a crime here just like it is anywhere else.
But it's not like I believe your post is anything but trolling anyway. My response is for anyone dumb enough to pull that stunt. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: legal to teach english with an online degree? |
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| kidfromkorea wrote: |
my aunt owns a hagwon in korea
and she said she'll hire me to teach at her place and told me to get any goddamn degree.
so ive researched and found what was the fastest way to get a degree and online degree popped up.
as long as i have a degree i'll be hired no problem i was just wondering if i'll have legal troubles if i was teaching english in korea with an online degree.
i know there are 2 types of online degree.
one is accredited and the other is this thing called "degree mill"
are both legal? |
Maybe you should ask god what a godgood degree is and do that one. I always get a kick out of people looking for the fastest way to do something. Why not think of what the word quality means and follow that path. I guess you can hang around in life always trying to do things fast rather than well and maybe you would fit right with Korea. The whole quality thing seams to be missing here as well. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Are you a gyopo eligible for gyopo visa?
If your aunt is giving you a job then you don't even need a degree, as long as you keep working for her.
(although a degree looking paper to hang on the wall is always nice)
I assume you are young (younger than 35). You'll have to do military service before you start working. |
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bassexpander
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't feed the troll. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry, a pre-morning-coffee mistake. |
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FistFace
Joined: 24 Mar 2007
Location: Peekaboo! I can see you! And I know what you do!
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kidfromkorea
Joined: 05 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:55 am Post subject: |
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lol im not a troll
and that was a serious question.
i want to know the truth, if i need to get an accredited online degree i will do so but i was just wondering if its legally ok for me to teach in korea with a "degree mill" but i guess not.
i just came to this site looking for knowledge and all you guys do is bash me and tell me that you hope i go to jail. what is ur probelm? is it because im getting hooked up by my family? why does that bother you so much?
yes im a gyopo (i even have a f4 visa) but even for a gyopo i still need a degree to teach in korea. well thats what my aunt said.
and no im a canadian citizen so i dont need to go to the army *whew* lol |
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bluelake
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| kidfromkorea wrote: |
lol im not a troll
and that was a serious question.
i want to know the truth, if i need to get an accredited online degree i will do so but i was just wondering if its legally ok for me to teach in korea with a "degree mill" but i guess not.
i just came to this site looking for knowledge and all you guys do is bash me and tell me that you hope i go to jail. what is ur probelm? is it because im getting hooked up by my family? why does that bother you so much?
yes im a gyopo but even for a gyopo i still need a degree to teach in korea. well thats what my aunt said.
and no im a canadian citizen so i dont need to go to the army *whew* lol |
A degree mill degree isn't worth the paper it's printed on; steer clear of them. There is nothing wrong with accredited online degrees, but be wary of any that offer a degree in a relatively short amount of time.
Regarding military duty, even if you are a citizen of another country, but someone stuck your name on the family register in Korea, you would still be required to serve in the military if you come here. Be sure to find out about that first.
Good luck. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| kidfromkorea wrote: |
| lol im not a troll |
Yeah, and this post from you sure sways people away from that view!
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| and that was a serious question. |
Okay, let's pretend for a moment that's the truth.
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| i want to know the truth, if i need to get an accredited online degree i will do so but i was just wondering if its legally ok for me to teach in korea with a "degree mill" but i guess not. |
For jobs requiring a degree, those from accredited institutions are the only degrees recognized.
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| i just came to this site looking for knowledge and all you guys do is bash me and tell me that you hope i go to jail. what is ur probelm? is it because im getting hooked up by my family? why does that bother you so much? |
I couldn't care less about your family. What galls me, along with many others, is that people just like you, people too lazy to be honest, have tarnished the rest of us here who worked hard to get our degrees and work hard to educate our students.
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| yes im a gyopo (i even have a f4 visa) but even for a gyopo i still need a degree to teach in korea. well thats what my aunt said. |
Is your aunt an Immigration Officer?
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| and no im a canadian citizen so i dont need to go to the army *whew* lol |
You very well may find out differently after you get here. And the Korean military isn't all that impressed by people too lazy to do work. |
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Nemo
Joined: 28 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| Degree mills and Khan San Rd diplomas have worked for other ESL teachers. Koreans just want some paperwork to process. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Yeah, and at least one's been sent up for six months and then deported. |
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Goon-Yang
Joined: 28 May 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
Are you a gyopo eligible for gyopo visa?
If your aunt is giving you a job then you don't even need a degree, as long as you keep working for her.
(although a degree looking paper to hang on the wall is always nice)
I assume you are young (younger than 35). You'll have to do military service before you start working. |
You are wrong. People on F- 2, 4 and 5 degrees still need degrees to teach. Koreans need a degree to teach at a hagwon. |
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kidfromkorea
Joined: 05 Aug 2009
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| kidfromkorea wrote: |
| lol im not a troll |
Yeah, and this post from you sure sways people away from that view!
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| and that was a serious question. |
Okay, let's pretend for a moment that's the truth.
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| i want to know the truth, if i need to get an accredited online degree i will do so but i was just wondering if its legally ok for me to teach in korea with a "degree mill" but i guess not. |
For jobs requiring a degree, those from accredited institutions are the only degrees recognized.
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| i just came to this site looking for knowledge and all you guys do is bash me and tell me that you hope i go to jail. what is ur probelm? is it because im getting hooked up by my family? why does that bother you so much? |
I couldn't care less about your family. What galls me, along with many others, is that people just like you, people too lazy to be honest, have tarnished the rest of us here who worked hard to get our degrees and work hard to educate our students.
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| yes im a gyopo (i even have a f4 visa) but even for a gyopo i still need a degree to teach in korea. well thats what my aunt said. |
Is your aunt an Immigration Officer?
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| and no im a canadian citizen so i dont need to go to the army *whew* lol |
You very well may find out differently after you get here. And the Korean military isn't all that impressed by people too lazy to do work. |
lazy?
how do u know what ive been doing in the past 4 years?
just because university wasnt one of my interest doesn't necessarily prove i havent been doing jack [Mod Edit] last couple of years.
i mean who's more lazy? you with a degree, couldn't beat out the competition of obtaining a job in U.S. (or wherever you are from) and chose to teach in Korea because it was known to be easy to get a job?
are you gonna tell me that it was your long life dream to go to Korea to teach english? or your long life dream to teach? how come you couldn't teach in U.S? cuz u couldnt get a job? wat a joke.
so who are you to judge me? as far as im concerned most people who are in Korea teaching english are lazy because they weren't passionate enough to find jobs back at home.
and u wanna know what ive been doing past 4 years?
i quit school because both my parents were gravely ill, while my mom was being covered by health canada my dad in korea couldnt so i had to work full time so i can both support my family in canada and also send money to my dad for hospital bill and living every [Mod Edit] month. and this was at age 21.
so what the [Mod Edit] have u been diong last 4 years? enjoying university that ur mom paid for you and then realizing ur 4 years was complete waste of time cuz u couldnt find a job here? and then were force to move to a foreign country to teach english and then pretend like u r some university elitist and telling ppl who didnt go to university that they're [Mod Edit] lazy and deserve to go to jail?
give me a break man or u need to grow up.
at least dont tell me ppl that they're lazy when u r not any better. |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
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Dude, you've basically asked about the easiest/fastest way to get a degree. Like it or not, this makes you lazy. Most people on this board have done the hard graft to get educated. If you really want to teach English, get your head down and prepare to work. You don't get anything in this life for free and degrees require dedication, commitment and a fair amount of work. Besides, I can guarantee you accredited online degrees will almost certainly take you longer than a campus based degree. For example, I've got my eye on doing a certain online degree which will take at least 4.5 at the minimum. The same degree on campus would take 3 years.
If you think people in Korea teaching English are lazy why are you intending on joining them? You'll go really far with that attitude. |
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