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[Summer Wine]

Just doing some reading in my holidays, looking at different issues and thought about this after looking at the map of Israel and the discussions about the wall dividing it from the West Bank.

I looked at the distance and wondered if like Pakistan in 1947, whether it would in the long term become unfeasible and probably result in the creation of two states.

I am providing some back ground.

[Trevor]

It's a moot point because there's not going to be a Palestinian state while Israel exists as an "ethnic democracy," the greatest misnomer since "the Patriot Act."

Between 20 to 50 years from now, the United States is going to lose its foothold in the region due to economic instability. There is going to be a nasty, nasty war. My best guess is China, perhaps in collusion with Russia, is going to pick up the pieces afterwards, and greater Israel and what we now call Palestine will be lumped together as an international zone.

It's silly to ask if Palestine can be a viable state because Israel clearly will not let it under th current power structures. Is the moon made of green cheese?

[Summer Wine]

Interesting point but I am not sure thats completely true. Its also difficult to really make any judgements about the area as it does seem to act in unforeseen ways.

[Trevor]

[Summer Wine]

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My best bet is they are going to tie their record, or maybe slightly surpass it, before being exiled again, as they were in the Babylonian Exile 2500 years ago.

There are a few differences between that period and now. Technology being one of them. This time that area might not be livable afterwards as I don't see the Israelis "going quietly into that dark night".

Its one of the things that has always bothered me, do the muslims hate the idea of Jews not actually being second class people and supposed victims of Gods wrath more than they like the idea of a undestroyed palestine.

One of the disputes that doesn't seem to be raised much is that the Koran seems to describe the Jews lack of country as being due to Gods wrath. The fact that in this century they do have a country and supposedly strong relationships with certain countries does negate some of the Korans writings and must upset some conservative muslims.

(Actually I may be misconstruing what was actually written in the Koran and simply age old beliefs in the Middle east) Post editted.

[Safron]

Israel's not going to be forced anywhere this time. The reason why is simple - Nuclear Weapons - and the will to use them if they are forced into exile.

[Trevor]

It is only a matter of time before someone else gets a nuclear weapon -- or another more technologically advanced weapon.

You don't think nukes are going to be the last WMD that the human race will invent DO YA?

[Safron]

So Trevor, the response to Iran or any other of Israels enemies that gets a nuclear or other WMD will be to surrender the state of Israel, and move somewhere else?