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zipper
Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Ruben Carter was falsely accused
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 Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:43 pm Post subject: Is EPIK raising the bar for applicants? Must have GPA scores |
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Is EPIK or is it just some recruiters raising the bar for applicants? One recruiter said that applicants must have a 3.0 GPA and above to qualify for an EPIK position; plus reference letters must be scanned showing original signature. Also, they want to know every school you attended from elementary and up. An FBI job? The fact that they are putting some kind of emphasis on GPA is interesting Maybe a good thing after all.
Has anybody else noticed this trend? Has it become an official EPIK policy?
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Manuel_the_Bandito
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| How will that be possible when not all countries use the GPA system? |
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zipper
Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Ruben Carter was falsely accused
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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It states in the ad:
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Triban
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station
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| If they actually did that they would also have to take into account that some of us went to more prestigious/academic colleges than others. Some colleges are just flat out HARDER. This makes no sense and I believe is a lie. |
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zipper
Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Ruben Carter was falsely accused
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| If they actually did that they would also have to take into account that some of us went to more prestigious/academic colleges than others. Some colleges are just flat out HARDER. This makes no sense and I believe is a lie. |
The ad is on daves: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=39231 |
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Manuel_the_Bandito
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| zipper wrote: |
It states in the ad:
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| Non-North American applicants should submit an equivalent of GPA which may be the total college mark or grade earned. GPA score or cumulative grade/mark earned by an applicant in college should be included in the resume. |
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So could you tell us how first, upper second and lower second are converted into an American GPA? I'm sure the Korean recruiter couldn't. |
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zipper
Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Ruben Carter was falsely accused
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Manuel_the_Bandito wrote: |
| zipper wrote: |
It states in the ad:
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| Non-North American applicants should submit an equivalent of GPA which may be the total college mark or grade earned. GPA score or cumulative grade/mark earned by an applicant in college should be included in the resume. |
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So could you tell us how first, upper second and lower second are converted into an American GPA? I'm sure the Korean recruiter couldn't. |
I don't know. I am not the recruiter, but here is something that is sure to make you laugh. (except if you really want the job)
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ADDITIONAL EPIK APPLICATION DOCUMENTS:
As EPIK continues to attract numerous applicants worldwide and qualified candidates fiercely compete for slots and school placements, NIIED has come up with additional qualifying documents to screen applicants such as:
Cumulative GPA Score or Tertiary Marks/Grade
Starting this recruitment season for positions commencing February 2010 EPIK requires all applicants to submit a GPA for post secondary degrees (graduate & undergraduate) earned by an applicant.
Failure to do so will result to automatic application failure. Grade Point Average, or GPA, is the means by which total performance in school, usually in college, is calculated.
Non-North American applicants should submit an equivalent of GPA with accompanying details. Since most countries have individual grading systems unique to their own schools.
You are also required to provide the highest GPA score or grades/marks used by the institution you graduated from. Your GPA info/grades or marks should look like this: 3.0 (your GPA) / 4.3 (highest GPA).
GPA score/grades or marks should be included in the resume & be written on the EPIK Application Form
2X Reference Letters (Only Professional and Academic References are Acceptable)
All EPIK-National Applicants are required to submit to 2 Reference or Recommendation letters. The program only accepts professional references issued by supervisors or management.
An applicant may submit academic references issued by former teachers. References issued by friends, colleagues, acquaintance, or family members are null and void.
Acceptable Reference Details:占폨nly Professional & Academic References
占폮hould be scanned copy of the original ( ONLY in pdf or jpg file)
占폮hould be manually signed (ink signature) & dated by issuing personnel
占폮hould bear the full contact details of the school (for academic reference) or company (for professional reference)
占폫eferences issued by Korean schools in Korean are acceptable
占폫eferences written in languages other than Korean & English should be officially translated in English IMPORTANT APPLICATION DATES:
占폗pplication Period: Until Filled (May Close Sooner Due to Influx of Applications from N. America & Europe)
占폨rientation Period: February 20, 2010
占폚ontract Term: February 26, 2010 占� February 25, 2010
占폮chool Year: 2010-2011, 1st Semester
占� Interview Start Date: October 1, 2009 (Only for those who emailed a completed application dossier)
IMPORTANT REMINDER
At this point, emailed documents suffice. We understand that it is common for most HR Firms in Korea to require applicants to submit originals. However, we implore applicants to exercise extreme caution since originals are extremely sensitive papers, which are only necessary in processing a teaching visa called E2. Employers at both the public and private sector never require original documents during the application process.
l Be informed that it is crucial to be represented by a duly license HR partner of the Ministry占퐏 EPIK. Applicants working with multiple HR firms are perceived negatively by the authorities as it creates confusion & decelerates the national database.
l If your completed application dossier (details enumerated above) has been submitted to the EPIK by one of the 18 license HR Partner占퐏 of the Ministry, it will be in your best interest not to contact others including us. However, be informed that out of hundreds of recruiters placing teachers in Korea, only 18 have exclusive contracts with the Ministry占퐏 EPIK and fewer have contracts with school boards that will be hiring independently early winter of 2009.
Jeju Island & Metropolitan Cities (Seoul, Busan, Daegu, Ulsan, Daejeon, Gwangju, & Incheon)
Due to influx of qualified candidates for this semester占퐏 intake (September start), it only took approximately 5 weeks to fill out all metro and Jeju public school vacancies. It you are keen on securing a post in Korea占퐏 metropolis for the next EPIK-National intake, it will be in your best interest to submit a completed dossier ASAP. Those who successfully secured public school appointments this September in highly contested areas applied as early as December 2008.
Documents Attached
Attachments in this email are in word and pdf. To open the files you need to have either word or an acrobat viewer. The documents are exclusively written in English as well as the software used. They are free from any Korean characters. If you have difficulty opening the files, please check if your computer is equipped with appropriate software.
占폯o Open PDF File 占� Download a free Adobe Reader at http://www.adobe.com/占� To Open Word File 占� Download Free Microsoft Word Trial at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/default.aspx?pf=true
If you have any questions, you may either contact us by phone, email, or Voice IP (Skype, Google Talk, AIM or Yahoo Mssgr). Should you want us to call you to address your concerns and issues, please briefly email us the details of your inquiry, preferred contact date and hours as well your contact numbers.
Attached are pertinent e-literatures regarding the program as well as living & working abroad. We trust that they are of use to you. |
What I find ridiculous is the EPIK application emphasis on listing all schools including elementary schools. |
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Triban
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| zipper wrote: |
| Manuel_the_Bandito wrote: |
| zipper wrote: |
It states in the ad:
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| Non-North American applicants should submit an equivalent of GPA which may be the total college mark or grade earned. GPA score or cumulative grade/mark earned by an applicant in college should be included in the resume. |
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So could you tell us how first, upper second and lower second are converted into an American GPA? I'm sure the Korean recruiter couldn't. |
I don't know. I am not the recruiter, but here is something that is sure to make you laugh. (except if you really want the job)
| Quote: |
ADDITIONAL EPIK APPLICATION DOCUMENTS:
As EPIK continues to attract numerous applicants worldwide and qualified candidates fiercely compete for slots and school placements, NIIED has come up with additional qualifying documents to screen applicants such as:
Cumulative GPA Score or Tertiary Marks/Grade
Starting this recruitment season for positions commencing February 2010 EPIK requires all applicants to submit a GPA for post secondary degrees (graduate & undergraduate) earned by an applicant.
Failure to do so will result to automatic application failure. Grade Point Average, or GPA, is the means by which total performance in school, usually in college, is calculated.
Non-North American applicants should submit an equivalent of GPA with accompanying details. Since most countries have individual grading systems unique to their own schools.
You are also required to provide the highest GPA score or grades/marks used by the institution you graduated from. Your GPA info/grades or marks should look like this: 3.0 (your GPA) / 4.3 (highest GPA).
GPA score/grades or marks should be included in the resume & be written on the EPIK Application Form
2X Reference Letters (Only Professional and Academic References are Acceptable)
All EPIK-National Applicants are required to submit to 2 Reference or Recommendation letters. The program only accepts professional references issued by supervisors or management.
An applicant may submit academic references issued by former teachers. References issued by friends, colleagues, acquaintance, or family members are null and void.
Acceptable Reference Details:占폨nly Professional & Academic References
占폮hould be scanned copy of the original ( ONLY in pdf or jpg file)
占폮hould be manually signed (ink signature) & dated by issuing personnel
占폮hould bear the full contact details of the school (for academic reference) or company (for professional reference)
占폫eferences issued by Korean schools in Korean are acceptable
占폫eferences written in languages other than Korean & English should be officially translated in English IMPORTANT APPLICATION DATES:
占폗pplication Period: Until Filled (May Close Sooner Due to Influx of Applications from N. America & Europe)
占폨rientation Period: February 20, 2010
占폚ontract Term: February 26, 2010 占� February 25, 2010
占폮chool Year: 2010-2011, 1st Semester
占� Interview Start Date: October 1, 2009 (Only for those who emailed a completed application dossier)
IMPORTANT REMINDER
At this point, emailed documents suffice. We understand that it is common for most HR Firms in Korea to require applicants to submit originals. However, we implore applicants to exercise extreme caution since originals are extremely sensitive papers, which are only necessary in processing a teaching visa called E2. Employers at both the public and private sector never require original documents during the application process.
l Be informed that it is crucial to be represented by a duly license HR partner of the Ministry占퐏 EPIK. Applicants working with multiple HR firms are perceived negatively by the authorities as it creates confusion & decelerates the national database.
l If your completed application dossier (details enumerated above) has been submitted to the EPIK by one of the 18 license HR Partner占퐏 of the Ministry, it will be in your best interest not to contact others including us. However, be informed that out of hundreds of recruiters placing teachers in Korea, only 18 have exclusive contracts with the Ministry占퐏 EPIK and fewer have contracts with school boards that will be hiring independently early winter of 2009.
Jeju Island & Metropolitan Cities (Seoul, Busan, Daegu, Ulsan, Daejeon, Gwangju, & Incheon)
Due to influx of qualified candidates for this semester占퐏 intake (September start), it only took approximately 5 weeks to fill out all metro and Jeju public school vacancies. It you are keen on securing a post in Korea占퐏 metropolis for the next EPIK-National intake, it will be in your best interest to submit a completed dossier ASAP. Those who successfully secured public school appointments this September in highly contested areas applied as early as December 2008.
Documents Attached
Attachments in this email are in word and pdf. To open the files you need to have either word or an acrobat viewer. The documents are exclusively written in English as well as the software used. They are free from any Korean characters. If you have difficulty opening the files, please check if your computer is equipped with appropriate software.
占폯o Open PDF File 占� Download a free Adobe Reader at http://www.adobe.com/占� To Open Word File 占� Download Free Microsoft Word Trial at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/default.aspx?pf=true
If you have any questions, you may either contact us by phone, email, or Voice IP (Skype, Google Talk, AIM or Yahoo Mssgr). Should you want us to call you to address your concerns and issues, please briefly email us the details of your inquiry, preferred contact date and hours as well your contact numbers.
Attached are pertinent e-literatures regarding the program as well as living & working abroad. We trust that they are of use to you. |
What I find ridiculous is the EPIK application emphasis on listing all schools including elementary schools. |
What I find ridiculous is that you don't understand they were using 3.0 AS AN EXAMPLE. They never state your GPA MUST BE 3.0.
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zipper
Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Ruben Carter was falsely accused
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Triban wrote: |
| zipper wrote: |
| Manuel_the_Bandito wrote: |
| zipper wrote: |
It states in the ad:
| Quote: |
| Non-North American applicants should submit an equivalent of GPA which may be the total college mark or grade earned. GPA score or cumulative grade/mark earned by an applicant in college should be included in the resume. |
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So could you tell us how first, upper second and lower second are converted into an American GPA? I'm sure the Korean recruiter couldn't. |
I don't know. I am not the recruiter, but here is something that is sure to make you laugh. (except if you really want the job)
| Quote: |
ADDITIONAL EPIK APPLICATION DOCUMENTS:
As EPIK continues to attract numerous applicants worldwide and qualified candidates fiercely compete for slots and school placements, NIIED has come up with additional qualifying documents to screen applicants such as:
Cumulative GPA Score or Tertiary Marks/Grade
Starting this recruitment season for positions commencing February 2010 EPIK requires all applicants to submit a GPA for post secondary degrees (graduate & undergraduate) earned by an applicant.
Failure to do so will result to automatic application failure. Grade Point Average, or GPA, is the means by which total performance in school, usually in college, is calculated.
Non-North American applicants should submit an equivalent of GPA with accompanying details. Since most countries have individual grading systems unique to their own schools.
You are also required to provide the highest GPA score or grades/marks used by the institution you graduated from. Your GPA info/grades or marks should look like this: 3.0 (your GPA) / 4.3 (highest GPA).
GPA score/grades or marks should be included in the resume & be written on the EPIK Application Form
2X Reference Letters (Only Professional and Academic References are Acceptable)
All EPIK-National Applicants are required to submit to 2 Reference or Recommendation letters. The program only accepts professional references issued by supervisors or management.
An applicant may submit academic references issued by former teachers. References issued by friends, colleagues, acquaintance, or family members are null and void.
Acceptable Reference Details:占폨nly Professional & Academic References
占폮hould be scanned copy of the original ( ONLY in pdf or jpg file)
占폮hould be manually signed (ink signature) & dated by issuing personnel
占폮hould bear the full contact details of the school (for academic reference) or company (for professional reference)
占폫eferences issued by Korean schools in Korean are acceptable
占폫eferences written in languages other than Korean & English should be officially translated in English IMPORTANT APPLICATION DATES:
占폗pplication Period: Until Filled (May Close Sooner Due to Influx of Applications from N. America & Europe)
占폨rientation Period: February 20, 2010
占폚ontract Term: February 26, 2010 占� February 25, 2010
占폮chool Year: 2010-2011, 1st Semester
占� Interview Start Date: October 1, 2009 (Only for those who emailed a completed application dossier)
IMPORTANT REMINDER
At this point, emailed documents suffice. We understand that it is common for most HR Firms in Korea to require applicants to submit originals. However, we implore applicants to exercise extreme caution since originals are extremely sensitive papers, which are only necessary in processing a teaching visa called E2. Employers at both the public and private sector never require original documents during the application process.
l Be informed that it is crucial to be represented by a duly license HR partner of the Ministry占퐏 EPIK. Applicants working with multiple HR firms are perceived negatively by the authorities as it creates confusion & decelerates the national database.
l If your completed application dossier (details enumerated above) has been submitted to the EPIK by one of the 18 license HR Partner占퐏 of the Ministry, it will be in your best interest not to contact others including us. However, be informed that out of hundreds of recruiters placing teachers in Korea, only 18 have exclusive contracts with the Ministry占퐏 EPIK and fewer have contracts with school boards that will be hiring independently early winter of 2009.
Jeju Island & Metropolitan Cities (Seoul, Busan, Daegu, Ulsan, Daejeon, Gwangju, & Incheon)
Due to influx of qualified candidates for this semester占퐏 intake (September start), it only took approximately 5 weeks to fill out all metro and Jeju public school vacancies. It you are keen on securing a post in Korea占퐏 metropolis for the next EPIK-National intake, it will be in your best interest to submit a completed dossier ASAP. Those who successfully secured public school appointments this September in highly contested areas applied as early as December 2008.
Documents Attached
Attachments in this email are in word and pdf. To open the files you need to have either word or an acrobat viewer. The documents are exclusively written in English as well as the software used. They are free from any Korean characters. If you have difficulty opening the files, please check if your computer is equipped with appropriate software.
占폯o Open PDF File 占� Download a free Adobe Reader at http://www.adobe.com/占� To Open Word File 占� Download Free Microsoft Word Trial at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/default.aspx?pf=true
If you have any questions, you may either contact us by phone, email, or Voice IP (Skype, Google Talk, AIM or Yahoo Mssgr). Should you want us to call you to address your concerns and issues, please briefly email us the details of your inquiry, preferred contact date and hours as well your contact numbers.
Attached are pertinent e-literatures regarding the program as well as living & working abroad. We trust that they are of use to you. |
What I find ridiculous is the EPIK application emphasis on listing all schools including elementary schools. |
What I find ridiculous is that you don't understand they were using 3.0 AS AN EXAMPLE. They never state your GPA MUST BE 3.0.
/facepalm |
Oops!  You占퐎e right. But they are figuring the GPA into a tier system. I scanned it too quickly.
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blonde researcher
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Location: Globalizing in Korea for the time being
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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EPIK don't have any official GPA score you must have, nor do the Korean immigration offices. It would be crazy to ask all the applicants from the 6 countries other than USA to try and work out their own GPA as you couldnt get any legitimate comparison as every country's system is different.
I think this is a recruiter trying to lift the bar himself,aware that only a few level 3 applicants will get in for March 2010 if they dont have any TESOL, a suitable major such as English or literature, or if they have not obtained a 'good' academic university diploma etc etc
The constant EPIK advertising happening now will bring in a high number of applicants for 2010, but a good number of these applicants may get eliminated after the interview, often without the real reason told to them, or they will give up along the way in frustration.
A shortage of applicants - you lower the bar, and have a reasonably loose criteria for hiring
More applicants than jobs - you raise the bar and tighten the paperwork thus eliminating applicants who would have got in easily the year before. |
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Deep Thirteen
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Swamp Land
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| What I find ridiculous is the EPIK application emphasis on listing all schools including elementary schools. |
Some English teaching companies in Japan require this also on a resume for immigration. Maybe they are taking a cue from there. |
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blonde researcher
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Location: Globalizing in Korea for the time being
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EPIK needs to know your own schooling location because they need to assess if you are a native speaker.
If you did any of your k1-12 schooling in another country (that is not one of the 7 qualifying countries) they check. You must be educated in your passport country or one of the 6 others qualifying from about age 10 and above to qualify.
This is the Korean government's criteria for assessing you as a native English speaker - you must prove 10 years of your own schooling in a qualifying country. All of middle, high school, and your university studies. |
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DrugstoreCowgirl
Joined: 08 May 2009
Location: Daegu-where the streets have no name
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| Isn't your GPA included on your transcripts? |
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richardlang
Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| A 'B' average wouldn't be such a bad requirement. It'd be the first standard put up to keep academic slackers out. As it stands now, there are no requirements other than a college diploma from one of the preferred seven English-speaking countries. |
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Triban
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Location: Suwon Station
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| richardlang wrote: |
| A 'B' average wouldn't be such a bad requirement. It'd be the first standard put up to keep academic slackers out. As it stands now, there are no requirements other than a college diploma from one of the preferred seven English-speaking countries. |
Sometimes you get a dick for a Professor that screws over you GPA. Your GPA is 50% luck, unless you pay for pick-a-prof, which I didn't. |
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