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Have you ever worked with Korean Airlines or Asiana Airlines

 
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bnrockin



Joined: 27 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:58 am    Post subject: Have you ever worked with Korean Airlines or Asiana Airlines Reply with quote

I see postings for jobs teaching English with Asiana Air and Korean Air at least once a year, usually in the summer/fall. I was just wondering if there was anyone here who actually has worked with them or who knows someone working as an English teacher with them.

I would imagine working with them would be the Ferrari of English teaching jobs, but hey, I could also be completely wrong as well.

Also, what does it take to even get a job like that. I imagine that once they come up, everyone and their brother would be jumping at the chance, so how to they sift through the 500 applications? Is it like the typical Korean job market-Highest level of education, best university, and most years of experience?
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't you reckon this is a case of who you know, you know?
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UrbanStyle



Joined: 23 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, My roommate works for asiana airlines, ill ask him and get back to this post.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like 12yrs ago I interviewed for a job at Korean Air. IMO the job would have sucked. I was only going for it for two reasons: cheap flights for employees and nice housing compared to what I had been used to. The job was working in customer relations and they had me do a test where I replied to some customer complaints. I didn't get offered the job, as I am not the most diplomatic person out there. I wouldn't say that it is an elite job...it is just a non-teaching job with a great benefit if you like flying/traveling. I would have abused the flights allowed per year if I had gotten the job. The pay was less than a hawgwon.
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420bro



Joined: 15 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: KOrean Air Reply with quote

My friend worked for KOrean Air for two or three years teaching the pilots. From what I heard the job involves irregular teaching hours. The schedule changes week to week. Some weeks you might teach 25hours others five. The downside (IMO) is that you are a part of KOrean corporate culture and are expected to act like it, i.e., wear a suit and tie, sit at your desk all day even if you have nothing to do, wait until 530pm to go home even if you have no classes, etc.

Biggest perk of the job was the 25 FREE flights he got each year for you or your family members. In the time my friend was there he was hopping all over the world whenever he could. As I said though, it is a KOrean company so he didnt get much vacation time and he would genereally have to do small weekend trips.

Other things I remember him saying was that the pay wasnt too bad, but they wouldnt give him any housing allowance. Not sure if this has changed or not since last year when he left.
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Konglishman



Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my ex-girlfriends used to work for Asiana Airlines as an airline attendant.
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoever teaches them to say "This is Korean chilli. It is very spicey" should be shot.
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youtuber



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People think it is the Ferrari of jobs because they think they will score with the stuartesses.

Teaching a room full of self-absorbed Korean princesses seems anything but a Ferrari. More like a Hyundai.

And again, you gotta look at the odds. Stuartesses are hot usually, and if you wanna get a special job to try and score with them, well, you are probably not.
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conbon78



Joined: 05 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:54 pm    Post subject: working at KAL Reply with quote

Well I'm cracking up at the postings regarding teaching at Korean Air. I currently work here and I can tell that you its probably the best job I've ever had and I worked for 6 years in the states. Of course, there is a downside to everything, but overall, the pay is good, the benefits are amazing, the actual position is fun, interesting, and enjoyable. Now, there are numerous positions within the company, but only 2 people actually teach English. There are other people who are working in journalism or IT or the other areas that need English speakers.

Also, we don't teach the flight attendants - they can't get hired unless they speak English. The English instructors only teach the pilots.

Now I did work at a hagwon last year and that was a horrid experience and one that I wish I could take back. Of course working for a Korean company has its ups and downs, but I wouldn't trade it at this point.
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:37 am    Post subject: Re: working at KAL Reply with quote

conbon78 wrote:
Well I'm cracking up at the postings regarding teaching at Korean Air. I currently work here and I can tell that you its probably the best job I've ever had and I worked for 6 years in the states. Of course, there is a downside to everything, but overall, the pay is good, the benefits are amazing, the actual position is fun, interesting, and enjoyable. Now, there are numerous positions within the company, but only 2 people actually teach English. There are other people who are working in journalism or IT or the other areas that need English speakers.

Also, we don't teach the flight attendants - they can't get hired unless they speak English. The English instructors only teach the pilots.

Now I did work at a hagwon last year and that was a horrid experience and one that I wish I could take back. Of course working for a Korean company has its ups and downs, but I wouldn't trade it at this point.


Good for you conbon78. It is always refreshing to hear how non-teachers live and work here in other industries without feeling the need to brag and rag.
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bnrockin



Joined: 27 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

youtuber wrote:
People think it is the Ferrari of jobs because they think they will score with the stuartesses.

Teaching a room full of self-absorbed Korean princesses seems anything but a Ferrari. More like a Hyundai.

And again, you gotta look at the odds. Stuartesses are hot usually, and if you wanna get a special job to try and score with them, well, you are probably not.


Really? Was that your first thought? Personally, I am not a fan of mixing business and pleasure. Wouldn't you be concerned that it would make the classroom dynamics very awkward and just completely not worth it?

The reason I think it is the Ferrari of jobs is because:

-The value of your work is more rewarding-instead of teaching so the school can make money, you are teaching people to do their jobs better. Essentially, you are conducting employee training

-Potential Career opportunities-while I doubt you will ever be treated 100% like a real employee, I imagine you can get very close and perhaps there are also some other career opportunities within that airline you can migrate to-i.e. marketing, PR, etc.

-Motivated Students (mixed argument)-in my experiences, when Korean adults have the opportunity to speak/learn English, they are quite excited and often motivated. There are exceptions, of course, like those who feel they are being forced into it or who just do not have the motivation.

-Compensation benefits-these may not come directly as cash, but can also come in other forms as well.
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