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Ody

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: over here
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:44 pm Post subject: Here comes baby! |
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Hi all,
I'm scheduled for a c-section Thursday and will check into the hospital tomorrow. Of course I�m eager for this all to be done but I find I am getting rather nervous about having major surgery in Korea.
Have any of you ladies or gentlemen who are familiar with this procedure (Korean style) any advice to offer?
Aside from being gun (rather knife) shy, my other issue is the Korean Hospital Culture's attitude toward nursing. I know that even stateside (NYC in fact) it's not easy to get lactate support. For example, they shouldn't give a nursing babe formula, only water.
Any words of wisdom/know-how will be appreciated.
~ody |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Don't have any advice, but congrats all the same!  |
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hellofaniceguy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Why not a natural child birth? Why let the Doc cut you open? It in common, very common in korea to have C-section births. In fact, korea leads the world in it. What, last month, the newspapers and TV stations did articles about the abuse of C births by korean doctors. They want to do C births because of the MONEY! Natural births? Not much money in it for them. The doctors complain that "too many complications with natural deliveries." Wrong answer. It's about money. They claim that too many deaths have happened over the years due to natural births and the doctors were getting sued. I say, if you're a doctor and a professional, you should have no problems than! My wife TOLD the doctor she wanted a natural delivery. Doc says, no. We changed doctors. No problem.
It comes down to how you feel about the doctor and if you are comfortable. If he has had many deliveries, then experience counts. A young doctor? Still green. |
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Ody

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: over here
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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hellofaniceguy wrote: |
Why not a natural child birth? Why let the Doc cut you open? It in common, very common in korea to have C-section births. In fact, korea leads the world in it. What, last month, the newspapers and TV stations did articles about the abuse of C births by korean doctors. They want to do C births because of the MONEY! Natural births? Not much money in it for them. The doctors complain that "too many complications with natural deliveries." Wrong answer. It's about money. They claim that too many deaths have happened over the years due to natural births and the doctors were getting sued. I say, if you're a doctor and a professional, you should have no problems than! My wife TOLD the doctor she wanted a natural delivery. Doc says, no. We changed doctors. No problem.
It comes down to how you feel about the doctor and if you are comfortable. If he has had many deliveries, then experience counts. A young doctor? Still green. |
Thank you for your response.
You�re preaching to the choir! Your wife was right to do as she did. I commend her.
Of course, you can probably guess that mine is a unique situation (isn't everybody's?). I�m guessing that your wife is not almost 40 years old, as am I. Without going into details, I have a history. The fact that this isn't my first (or even second) time is one factor. So for better or worse, I�m going in.
Maybe you can offer advice about breast feeding? Despite horrendous support my last time around, I managed with my son. It was frustrating though and I was in my home country at the time. Being here with limited ability to speak in Korean makes me 1000 times more anxious. Did/does your wife nurse? |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: North Shore NZ
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:02 am Post subject: |
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My wife had a C section late last year and here are a few tips and facts about Korean hospitals to share.
I don't want to scare you but after seeing what my wife went through and the other mothers in the hospital (Miz Medi), but after the operation you will be in SEVERE pain and WILL NOT be able to breastfeed for at least a day or so. In fact you won't be able to do anything but pump narcotics into your viens for blessed relief. Your baby will be bagged, tagged and secured behin two feet of glass and your husband WILL NOT be able to touch him/her, until you are both discharged from the hospital.
The nurses do JACK so you have better have some family support to help you.
She was able to breastfeed and they phoned her when it was feeding time. However she had to slowly ever so slowly inch her way up the fiendishly long hall to do so.
I suppose you have already chosen what type of recovery room you are willing to pay for. You get the single, double, triple and so on, the single being the most expensive. I would recommend the single, it's fiendishly expensive, but worth every cent.
-the baby can be in the same room as you
-you can breastfeed when he is hungry
-you can bond easier
-you significant other will have a better nights sleep if he is planning to stay overnight (recommended)
Our experience.
My wife insisted on a 5 person room
Benefits
-people to talk to
Negatives
-you cannot have the baby in the same room
-guests can stay all night there are no visiting hours so if your a light sleep it will be a problem.
- you will probably have to walk a fair distance to see the baby.
-No privacy
I'm still pissed that I wasn't able to hold my own baby for seven days, however by and large it was an ok experience, however if there is a next time we'll definitely get the single room.
Pm for for further info. |
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hellofaniceguy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:45 am Post subject: |
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No, I am not preaching, just sharing my experiences. My wife was 43 at the last birth. Hospitals in korea are not like hospitals in advanced nations. But that's the fault of the training, ethics, bedside manners, etc. The korean doctors think they are high and mighty and above everyone else. I pity most of them. No grudge but I think they need to get with it and learn world ways of practicing medicine, bedside manners, etc. Especially nurses. They are a lazy bunch. You'll get the least amount of post-op care from them.
My wife left the hospital the next day and the doctors and nurses were beside themself, they wanted her to remain a week. She asked them why. I told them she can stay in bed at home just as well as in a bed at this hospital. The baby left also with us. I am not a hard ass, just against the way medicine is practiced in korea. It's all about money and how much they can suck out of you. Same thing with naming the baby; they wanted a korean name on the birth certificate. I told them to go "screw yourselves." The hospital affair left a bitter taste in our mouths. Sheets were not changed the following morning, nor were towels. People walking in and out of the room carrying their IV stands just being nosey. The rooms, a few nurses and doctors stinking of kimchee and garlic. Very unprofessional setting. |
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peppergirl
Joined: 07 Dec 2003
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:51 am Post subject: |
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Good luck Ody! Don't worry too much, it seems it all depends on the hospital. One of my husband's colleagues had a baby recently in a hospital in Bundang and he kept saying the staff was sooo friendly. Not all hospitals are bad Hope yours is one of the better ones!!! |
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:04 am Post subject: |
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fidel wrote: |
My wife had a C section late last year and here are a few tips and facts about Korean hospitals to share.
I don't want to scare you but after seeing what my wife went through and the other mothers in the hospital (Miz Medi), but after the operation you will be in SEVERE pain and WILL NOT be able to breastfeed for at least a day or so. In fact you won't be able to do anything but pump narcotics into your viens for blessed relief. Your baby will be bagged, tagged and secured behin two feet of glass and your husband WILL NOT be able to touch him/her, until you are both discharged from the hospital.
The nurses do JACK so you have better have some family support to help you.
She was able to breastfeed and they phoned her when it was feeding time. However she had to slowly ever so slowly inch her way up the fiendishly long hall to do so.
I suppose you have already chosen what type of recovery room you are willing to pay for. You get the single, double, triple and so on, the single being the most expensive. I would recommend the single, it's fiendishly expensive, but worth every cent.
-the baby can be in the same room as you
-you can breastfeed when he is hungry
-you can bond easier
-you significant other will have a better nights sleep if he is planning to stay overnight (recommended)
Our experience.
My wife insisted on a 5 person room
Benefits
-people to talk to
Negatives
-you cannot have the baby in the same room
-guests can stay all night there are no visiting hours so if your a light sleep it will be a problem.
- you will probably have to walk a fair distance to see the baby.
-No privacy
I'm still pissed that I wasn't able to hold my own baby for seven days, however by and large it was an ok experience, however if there is a next time we'll definitely get the single room.
Pm for for further info. |
Have to agree with some of this. I had a natural birth but I suspect if I hadn't popped the sucker out post-haste the way I did, they would have come after me with a knife. As for recovery it sucked. The nurses didn't want me to shower afterward. They were useless. My husband had to do everything, help me with everything. They let me hold the baby for a few seconds and then whisked her off. I didn't get to see her except briefly in the nursery (when I was able to stand) and then only during appointed hours, like three times a day. During those times I was allowed to try breastfeeding but their attitude was grudging. And of course in between they were giving her formula. I really don't know how much you can insist on and how much is policy with Korean hospitals. If you CAN insist on having her room with you, that is probably the only way you'll be able to properly establish breastfeeding. I had to stay in the hospital for two nights, I had a private room so my husband could sleep over with me, and it was only about 70,000 won per night (totally worth it).
Anyway, good luck, and post pics as soon as you can, of course.  |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Best of luck and congratulations! |
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OiGirl

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Are home births legal in Korea? |
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The Lemon

Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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First of all, big congratulations Ody!! Looking forward to pictures.
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my other issue is the Korean Hospital Culture's attitude toward nursing. I know that even stateside (NYC in fact) it's not easy to get lactate support. For example, they shouldn't give a nursing babe formula, only water. |
I can only speak for the experience of my wife in October. She was given a lot of support (including special free breastfeeding classes) by her clinic. We were both thrilled with the care we received. I think it's likely that the level of care varies from clinic to clinic, and generalizations can't be easily drawn about the whole country.
If you have good vibes from your doctor, trust him/her.
Best of luck, Ody! |
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jaebea
Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Location: SYD
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Congrats and best wishes to Ody!
Good luck on a safe and swift delivery :)
jae. |
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2T
Joined: 28 Jul 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:43 pm Post subject: good luck |
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A friend of mine had her first two in the states and her third here in Korea.
Before the birth she was quite worried about hospitals here too.
However, it turned out that her experience was really positive. Everyone was really helpful and made things so easy for her.
I hope you have as much of a positive experience as she did.
Good luck with the birth and congratulations. |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Best wishes and mazel tov! |
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dutchman

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: My backyard
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:47 am Post subject: |
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Congrats Ody. It's probably too late now but the private birthing clinics give far better care than the major hospitals. We've (mostly my wife ) experienced both. |
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