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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:43 am    Post subject: My father Reply with quote

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Let me introduce my father. My father is very busy so I can't see my father many times. But my father was very funny and sometimes he play with me. I want to help my father, but I can't help father. But I like to have my father and I love him very much. Thank you for listening my introduction


This is one of my students answers to the question "write a speech introducing a family member"

For some reason this answer made me feel really, for want of a better word, sad. She is such a sweet kid, but now I can kinda see why she is so quiet in class. I love teaching her and her whole class, they try in class, they listen, they even take notes. I dread the day when we are going to have to split the class up (move some up and move new kids in)

Quality wise though I am amazed at the improvement she has made over the past year and a half I have been teaching her. Quite good for a fourth grade elementary student that doesn't go to English hagwon (I am the afterschool teacher)

No real point to this thread just wanted to share
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roadwork



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Goin' up the country

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the typical overworked, afterwork-drinking, school kid's dad. I get the same stuff.
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steveohan



Joined: 24 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i used to teach really gifted kindergarten kids. like they were pretty much fluent in english.

on monday mornings i'd always ask my students what they did on the weekend. there was one girl sally who was absolutely adorable. she was so kind and respectful. it blew my mind that a 6 year old girl could have such amazing manners.

anyway, i taught her for like 6 months, and she only talked about her dad like once or twice on monday mornings after my 'what did you guys do this weekend' question. it was always ' i went to so and so with my mom and sister'. it broke my heart that she never got to see her dad... Sad
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Hightop



Joined: 11 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a common theme that I have discovered in Korea. When I ask the women at work what they did on the weekend there are three answers I hear. 1. I played with my boyfriend. 2. I went to the park/museum/bookstore with my child/children. 3. I studied/worked/slept. The first answer comes from the women with a boyfriend. Second answer from married women. Third answer from single women. My conclusion is that once married, men don't hang out with their wives/children. Of course this is not true 100% of the time. I have also found interesting things when I talk with men about what they do on the weekend. There was one group of ajoshis who I taught from Kyobo insurance. All but one of them hated Sundays because they had to do family things, funnily enough our class was on Sundays, I guess they planned it that way.
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mimis



Joined: 24 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad

Why do you think some/many Korean men don't want to spend time with their families ?
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its good they at least have a place to express their thoughts. My friend teaches conversational English to adults and she says she feels like a therapist half the time because her students like to vent about their work/life/husbands/being Korean a lot.

mimis wrote:
Sad

Why do you think some/many Korean men don't want to spend time with their families ?


In some cases, Starcraft. I'm not joking. In most cases, my guess is that its probably a lot of the same reasons that husbands in other countries don't spend time with their families along with the Korean drinking culture (you have to drink with the group), prostitution, "working" late to ass kiss your boss. In my opinion, the biggest reason of all is that marriage is overrated and not for everybody.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mad Men on Marriage

Mad Men on Kids
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean tradition for fathers is to be 'distant' with children. Koreans ought to watch some Leo Buscaglia tapes.
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Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try to be a good father figure to them as much as you can. You may be the only kind of real male authority figure they have.
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benji



Joined: 21 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olivencia wrote:
Try to be a good father figure to them as much as you can. You may be the only kind of real male authority figure they have.


No thanks. Its really not our place.
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Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make it your place.
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roadwork



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Goin' up the country

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olivencia wrote:
Make it your place.


Not part of the job
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Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is whether you want it to be or not. Clean up your act.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hightop wrote:
There is a common theme that I have discovered in Korea. When I ask the women at work what they did on the weekend there are three answers I hear. 1. I played with my boyfriend. 2. I went to the park/museum/bookstore with my child/children. 3. I studied/worked/slept. The first answer comes from the women with a boyfriend. Second answer from married women. Third answer from single women. My conclusion is that once married, men don't hang out with their wives/children.


What the hell else do people do? You wake up, eat, shower, go to work, eat again, work again, go home, eat, do something to pass time and then sleep. A few trips to the bathroom and maybe one or two mostly meaningless conversations (in the grand scheme of things), and you've pretty much covered a typical person's day anywhere in the world, regardless of whether their shower takes place at night instead of the morning.
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

benji wrote:
Olivencia wrote:
Try to be a good father figure to them as much as you can. You may be the only kind of real male authority figure they have.


No thanks. Its really not our place.


That's not true.

There's a difference between trying to be someone's father and becoming a father "figure".

Although to be honest, if you're young enough, I'd rather use the term "Sister/Brother" figure.
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