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The new Office of Education manager, Yeosu - FAIL
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Ethan Allen Hawley



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:22 am    Post subject: The new Office of Education manager, Yeosu - FAIL Reply with quote

"My name is Amy Hosotsuji. I am a Japanese-Canadian English teacher in the public school system in Yeosu. I am emailing you to inform you of a situation that has happened in the last few weeks. My boyfriend is an African-American and has been applying for the last few months to join me in Yeosu in the public school system.

"A few weeks ago, my recruiter came down to Yeosu from Seoul to negotiate with the Yeosu Board of Education to have my boyfriend hired. Apparently, negotiation was necessary because the new head of the Board decided she does not want to hire blacks or asian English teachers. My recruiter told me she bluntly said she wants only caucasian teachers.

"I was, obviously, outraged when I first heard this. Now, my boyfriend and I are searching for hagwans for him, and at this point ANYWHERE in Korea.

"My recruiter said that this new Head of the Board of Education said she will only avoid hiring blacks for elementary school. But when my recruiter came to negotiate with her for middle and high school positions, she still would not give in."

Found here:
http://asiancorrespondent.com/nschwartzman/reader-alleges-racial-discriminatio.htm
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roadwork



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Goin' up the country

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their country,their choice. You don't like it, you know where Incheon is.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got that email as well and I was interested in it b/c it's nearby. But, let's wait until some proof turns up until we become outraged. I have no doubt people may be unwilling to hire blacks or Asians, but do we know it's actually the Office of Education or simply the recruiter? Do we even know if the woman making the complaint is a credible source?
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freethought



Joined: 13 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

roadwork wrote:
Their country,their choice. You don't like it, you know where Incheon is.


1930-40s Germany. Their country. Their choice.

Sound, sound logic.
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vk33



Joined: 26 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

freethought wrote:
roadwork wrote:
Their country,their choice. You don't like it, you know where Incheon is.


1930-40s Germany. Their country. Their choice.

Sound, sound logic.


Yeosu is a country?
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some school out their will hire you/him...but it will take time. I wish more black folks were hired in korea! This country is long overdue to be educated on skin color!
Many koreans are two faced...."oh, I like black people, blah, blah, blah" and when it comes time to hire, etc, they come up with B.S.!
It sounds cold and callous...but it is NOT your country...you are a guest....an uninvited guest at that as you are seeking employment...they did not kidnap you or force you to come to korea...a black man and an asian woman together in racist korea!!??


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shostahoosier



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vk33 wrote:
freethought wrote:
roadwork wrote:
Their country,their choice. You don't like it, you know where Incheon is.


1930-40s Germany. Their country. Their choice.

Sound, sound logic.


Yeosu is a country?


No...but Yeosu is in the country of Korea in case you werent able to pick that up.
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shostahoosier



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

roadwork wrote:
Their country,their choice. You don't like it, you know where Incheon is.


People are allowed to be upset about things you know.

I'm sure you've never complained about anything here. If you decide to...be sure to get your one way ticket ASAP ok?

I actually agree with you thats its their country and they get to make the rules and decide what they want...people should know better by now.

I dont think the girl has to leave though...there are plenty of options.

I doubt a Hagwon is one of them.
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roadwork



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Goin' up the country

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shostahoosier wrote:
roadwork wrote:
Their country,their choice. You don't like it, you know where Incheon is.


People are allowed to be upset about things you know.

I'm sure you've never complained about anything here. If you decide to...be sure to get your one way ticket ASAP ok?

I actually agree with you thats its their country and they get to make the rules and decide what they want...people should know better by now.

I dont think the girl has to leave though...there are plenty of options.

I doubt a Hagwon is one of them.


My point being to the OP who loves to fire up a thread anytime there is a perceived injustice in Korea: If it's that intolerable, then go home. I have a thicker skin and can deal with the mularkey here. But hey, thanks.
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hochhasd



Joined: 05 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

freethought wrote:
roadwork wrote:
Their country,their choice. You don't like it, you know where Incheon is.


1930-40s Germany. Their country. Their choice.

Sound, sound logic.


If me a break!!! Do not dare to compare 1930's-1940's Germany to this situation. If you said the 1960's in the southern part of America concerning jobs, then that is a different story. Rolling Eyes
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roadwork



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Goin' up the country

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hochhasd wrote:
freethought wrote:
roadwork wrote:
Their country,their choice. You don't like it, you know where Incheon is.


1930-40s Germany. Their country. Their choice.

Sound, sound logic.


If me a break!!! Do not dare to compare 1930's-1940's Germany to this situation. If you said the 1960's in the southern part of America concerning jobs, then that is a different story. Rolling Eyes


I know. I knew if I threw that lure out, some dumb fish would bite on it and take it to the extreme.

Hmmm...discriminatory hiring practices=genocide, yeah you were at the top of your class weren't you?
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shostahoosier



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

roadwork wrote:
shostahoosier wrote:
roadwork wrote:
Their country,their choice. You don't like it, you know where Incheon is.


People are allowed to be upset about things you know.

I'm sure you've never complained about anything here. If you decide to...be sure to get your one way ticket ASAP ok?

I actually agree with you thats its their country and they get to make the rules and decide what they want...people should know better by now.

I dont think the girl has to leave though...there are plenty of options.

I doubt a Hagwon is one of them.


My point being to the OP who loves to fire up a thread anytime there is a perceived injustice in Korea: If it's that intolerable, then go home. I have a thicker skin and can deal with the mularkey here. But hey, thanks.


Ah gotcha...sorry I wasnt aware of the pattern...
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roadwork



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Goin' up the country

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shostahoosier wrote:
roadwork wrote:
shostahoosier wrote:
roadwork wrote:
Their country,their choice. You don't like it, you know where Incheon is.


People are allowed to be upset about things you know.

I'm sure you've never complained about anything here. If you decide to...be sure to get your one way ticket ASAP ok?

I actually agree with you thats its their country and they get to make the rules and decide what they want...people should know better by now.

I dont think the girl has to leave though...there are plenty of options.

I doubt a Hagwon is one of them.


My point being to the OP who loves to fire up a thread anytime there is a perceived injustice in Korea: If it's that intolerable, then go home. I have a thicker skin and can deal with the mularkey here. But hey, thanks.


Ah gotcha...sorry I wasnt aware of the pattern...


I rarely, if ever attack someone using that cliche of "you don't like it, go home", but this dude's schtick is ridiculous. As evidenced by his/her one man self-righteous crusade (and subsequent 7 page thread with mostly posts by himself/herself) about the injustice of the Indian crew of the Hebei Spirit.
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freethought



Joined: 13 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

man, there are some simple minded people on these boards.

I am not comparing the deeds, but rather applying the thinking in a different setting. The poster that I was criticizing made a fair point later on, if the OP is hot and bothered about everything here, then leaving is maybe something the OP should consider. I would also say, though, that wanting to improve things here by pointing them out and criticizing them isn't a bad thing and is in fact admirable. I don't know the OP and don't post on the boards very often.

But re: my comment, apply the it's their country maxim to other situations: Darfur, women's rights in islamic countries, South Africa in apartheid, voter registration in the south, inter-racial marriages in LA (last week) dot dot dot. We have a universal declaration of human rights that Korea signed. It speaks out against discrimination. To defend what are obviously racist hiring practices with the idea of 'it's their country' is disturbing.
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hockeyguy109



Joined: 22 Dec 2008
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious about what these racist administrators would say if they went to a different country that told them, "Sorry, we don't hire Koreans".
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