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Hooligans put England's 2018 WC bid in jeopardy?

 
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catman



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:24 pm    Post subject: Hooligans put England's 2018 WC bid in jeopardy? Reply with quote

On 15th May 2008
Fans of Scottish giants Glasgow Rangers rampaged through the English city of Manchester last night after their team lost 2-0 to St Petersburg in the UEFA Cup Final.

At round 150,000 Scottish football fans - if not many more - turned up in the city to watch the game that was being played at the City of Manchester Stadium - which has a capacity of only arouf 45,000. It may have been the largest gathering of football fans in history.

Thousands who couldn't get into the stadium crowded around giant screens that were erected throughout the city to watch the game.

The Scottish hooligans first caused trouble when one of the giant screens broke down just before the match - the yobs even attacked the workmen who came out to repair the screen.

After the match, many more Scottish football hooligans then went on the rampage around Manchester, hurling missiles at riot police, cars and windows.

Because of this, England's bid to host the 2018 World Cup may be in jeopardy - even though it was SCOTTISH football hooligans who caused the trouble.

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Rampaging Rangers fans 'may have jeopardised England's bid to stage 2018 World Cup'


15th May 2008
Daily Mail


Rampaging Glasgow Rangers fans are a "disgrace" who could have jeopardised England's bid to host the 2018 football World Cup, Prime Minister Gordon Brown warned today.

The Prime Minister hit out at the Scottish supporters involved in violent clashes with police in Manchester last night - and said public drinking laws would also be reviewed.

"What happened last night was a disgrace," Mr Brown told reporters at this regular Downing Street press conference.

"It was a minority but it was completely unacceptable and for that to happen in a public place where the Manchester authorities had made available the facilities for people to enjoy the match.

"They have good reason, both the police and the authorities, to be very angry about what happened."

The FA is making a �15 million bid to bring the World Cup back to England for the first time since 1966 - a move sparked by the Prime Minister himself.

He said: "I want to do everything to avoid us being put in a position where we might be at risk of an application for the 2018 World Cup not being acceptable because of this.

"We've got to make sure we deal with problems and deal with them whenever they happen so we are looking at this as a matter of urgency."

"We do have laws that enable us to control drinking in public places where there is a risk of disorder. We will have to look at these laws for the future.

"Whatever the carnival atmosphere was at the beginning, the fact that it degenerated as a result of the minority being engaged in violence will lead us to have to look at this.

"The Home Secretary will be speaking to the Chief Constable about what happened," he said, praising the response of the Greater Manchester force.

One fan was stabbed and police made 42 arrests in hours of violence during and after Glasgow Rangers' defeat to Russian opponents Zenit St Petersburg.


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Stand-off: Riot police with dogs pen a group of drunken Rangers fans in a doorway

Fifteen police officers, as well as a police dog, were left nursing a catalogue of injuries as hundreds of riot police and supporters fought running battles.

A lone police officer was tripped up and stamped on as he faced up to a baying mob of hundreds of Rangers fans, video footage showed today.

The officer was among seven riot officers seen retreating down a city centre street at about 10.15pm yesterday as they were vastly outnumbered by charging supporters.

CCTV images show the officers attempting in vain to keep the fans at arm's length as missiles of cans, bottles and rubbish are thrown at them.

Six of the officers eventually turn and run but one of the officers confronts the pack. He is punched before one of the mob trips him up and he falls to the ground.

The male officer is then set upon in Newton Street by a gang of about 20 fans who kick and stamp on him on the ground.


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scotty12347



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Hooligans put England's 2018 WC bid in jeopardy? Reply with quote

catman wrote:

The Scottish hooligans first caused trouble when one of the giant screens broke down just before the match - the yobs even attacked the workmen who came out to repair the screen.



I actually went there to watch, just as a neutral. I couldnt believe when i saw Rangers fans throwing stuff at the people trying to sort it out, absolute idiots, how stupid can you get. The repairmen eventually left because the abuse was too bad.

The atmosphere went very sour and i got out of there pretty quickly

The first bit of your post needs quotes as it happened over a year ago but its wrote as if it was "last night"

I think whats more pressing is the Helicopter shot down over Rio Shocked
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catman



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Hooligans put England's 2018 WC bid in jeopardy? Reply with quote

scotty12347 wrote:


The first bit of your post needs quotes as it happened over a year ago but its wrote as if it was "last night"


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I think whats more pressing is the Helicopter shot down over Rio Shocked


I have no doubt that South Africa and Brazil will be two of the most dangerous venues for the WC.
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scotty12347



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest i hope England doesnt get it, i really dont think i would be able to stand the media love-in for the national team, only for people to realise how poor it really is after crashing out to some obscure country.
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Deep Thirteen



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw that incident on Most Daring or World's Wildest.
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danb056



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mate was working in a Manchester bar after the match had finished. The manager basically told the staff that if anyone tried to get behind the bar, just let them take what they want.
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morrisonhotel



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to distract from the point in the original post but there have been several incidents of hooliganism recently in England which will probably be of more interest to the governing body (Millwall v West Ham being the most notable) what with them being committed by English fans.
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oskinny1



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why bring this up a year and a half later?
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scotty12347



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oskinny1 wrote:
Why bring this up a year and a half later?


Thats what i was thinking to be honest. I think the original poster took offence to a thread in which some British toff insulted Canada, then made a snide comment about the British and started this thread possibly as some kind of "getting his own back" thing?

But im probably well wide of the mark.
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namu_nim



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be disappointing
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itaewonguy



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

best to give it to a country like brazil! or Australia...

somewhere the English can't travel too so easily...
it would be great if England held it.. but we all know its gonna kick off!
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Savant



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:
best to give it to a country like brazil! or Australia...

somewhere the English can't travel too so easily...
it would be great if England held it.. but we all know its gonna kick off!



South American football fans can get crazy. Fans and players alike attacking the referee during the games. Brits are not needed to start a riot there Smile

Australia? Of course! Aussie fans are never the aggressive sort and there can never be enough Brits living there Wink
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itaewonguy



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Savant wrote:
itaewonguy wrote:
best to give it to a country like brazil! or Australia...

somewhere the English can't travel too so easily...
it would be great if England held it.. but we all know its gonna kick off!



South American football fans can get crazy. Fans and players alike attacking the referee during the games. Brits are not needed to start a riot there Smile

Australia? Of course! Aussie fans are never the aggressive sort and there can never be enough Brits living there Wink


emm good point...
Korea again? hahahahha
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