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chris_J2 · Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: From Brisbane, Au.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/cleric-sheik-haron-on-hate-mail-charges/comments-e6frf7l6-1225789655863

andrewchon · Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:59 am Post subject:

Tomorrow is the Remembrance Day.
I'll be keeping a minute of silence at 11 AM.

Lest We Forget.

Kurtz · Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Location: ples bilong me

Didn't take you for a HeraldSun reader Chris, but we all have our dark side.

I think the guy has the right message, he's just going about it in an insensitive way.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/cleric-sheik-haron-on-hate-mail-charges/comments-e6frf7l6-1225789655863

Somehow I think I'm going to forget it's 11am/11/11....4th grade madness.

chris_J2 · Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: From Brisbane, Au.

'Insensitive' is a gross understatement. What 'Man Haron Monis' (Sheikh Haron) did, is criminal. There are other, legal ways to protest. Rudd is talking about revoking his citizenship, & deporting him. Every major tabloid in Australia is reporting this story, btw, not just the 'Hun'. (Herald Sun). 'Man Haron Monis' also said that the Aussies who died in the Bali bombings, & in the Victorian bushfires, deserved what they got, as it was 'God's punishment'. Echoing the sentiments of convicted terrorists plotting the Holsworthy Army Base Attack.

If you read the comments in that 1st link, there are several immigrants who strongly agree, that Man Haron Monis is clearly in the wrong, & most ungrateful for his priveleged Australian citizenship. eg:

Kurtz · Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Location: ples bilong me

Maybe I underestimated this crackpot.

I was agreeing with him for protesting about being in Afghanistan, making Oz a less safe place and I was taking into consideration his background and culture, whereby considering peoples' feelings is possibly not taken into account.

Reading some of those comments by HeraldSun readers really made me shudder though, and I don't trust tabloid journalism. Time and time again I've been duped by them taking things out of context, using sound bites etc.

Fact is, when discussing this immigration debate, the PC crowd are all too fast to use the word racist so I back off these days, it's not even safe on the internet, even though I feel the silent majority are seething.

When something does eventually happen is Oz, I'd hate the see the backlash on immigrants who look different.

andrewchon · Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:54 pm Post subject:

Back in Oz, I lived in the al-qaida central of Oz: Lakemba.
I saw the change in attitude of middle eastern immigrants living there.
When they were the minority, there were docile.
When they began to take over the suburb, things began to change.
By the time I left, it was 'go away, you infidel. we're muslims.'

The 'Cronulla riots in 2005' would happen again if they carry on like that.

chris_J2 · Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: From Brisbane, Au.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/kevin-rudd-outraged-at-sheiks-letters/story-e6freuy9-1225790202274

Kurtz: I take your point re media bias. I was still at Uni, when the Cronulla riots broke. There was provocation by both sides, with the mix of alchohol, & Alan Jones & other shock jocks goading on the Anglo/Celtic Aussies, not helping. I'm not sure if Jones was ever charged for incitement, but he should have been. The above article from the Sydney 'Terrorgraph', makes Rudd's position clear.

Gregory Sher himself was an immigrant, so it would be wrong to lash out mindlessly at all immigrants. Or Muslims. Most of them take their citizenship oaths seriously.