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DomesticPelican



Joined: 25 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:49 pm    Post subject: I am in a pickle. Need some advice... Reply with quote

I am obviously going to make this decision on my own, but I would appreciate any advice.

Preface: I just turned 25 and am fresh out of graduate school. I am American and have never taught overseas before. I know I want to be in a city, but it doesn't necessarily have to be a huge city. My main reason for coming to Korea is because I want to see the world, get some wonderful experience, and save up some money. I definitely want to travel when I am there, but not too extravagantly. I enjoy to go out for drinks sometimes, but I am not a huge party-animal by any means. I want to be somewhere with a decent nightlife, maybe some shopping, and others who speak English.

I have been offered two jobs in two different areas, and I'm really having a tough time deciding:

Job 1: In Busan (Busanjin) teaching with CDI. No weekends, Korean holidays off, 10 vacation days. airfare, single housing, pension, etc etc. Will be getting paid 2.3 million per month.

Job 2: In Songdo City/Incheon teaching with a newly-opened school that the director is hoping to franchise (this will be the second one to open). Basically the same perks as the first job, except I would be making 2.4-2.5 million per month.


From what I have gathered, Busan is the nicer of the cities. Obviously Songdo is closer to Seoul and it looks to be a city that is rapidly growing. I have seen the plan for the new city and it looks amazing. Yes, I realize it won't be complete for a several years.

Like I said, I plan on traveling and I want to experience Korea. I want to see some beaches, go hiking, shopping, pretty much the same stuff that everyone else does.



Any suggestions?
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not much over by Incheon and you'd have to cut through/bypass Seoul to get anywhere. If Korean travel is your plan Busan would be better. (Can also take the ferry to Japan)
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conbon78



Joined: 05 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:29 am    Post subject: busan Reply with quote

I would also choose Busan...it has everything you want. My friends really enjoy it there. Also, CDI is a reputable company that normally has structure and you know what to expect. However, I would double check on the holidays part because of all my friends that work there none of them have any holidays or vacation (except unpaid). My friends in Busan both work for KJC and love them.
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teacherinseoul



Joined: 18 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is really a no-brainer. Go for Busan. It's the nicer area, and you are rolling some unlucky dice whenever you sign up with a newly opened school.
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maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:17 am    Post subject: n Reply with quote

BUSan
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Busan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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sharkey



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Busanjin is right in the middle of the city as well. You'll have access to anywhere.
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DomesticPelican



Joined: 25 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I am definitely leaning toward Busan, haha.

I don't know much about Busanjin, but it does seem to be somewhat in the middle of things.
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RufusW



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Busan brigade... woop! Perfect sized city with beaches. Busanjin is very close to the centre, you're 40 minutes from anywhere in Busan.

New schools are also a little dodgy - i.e. they fail and you get sent home without any cash.

A year in Busan means you'll probably hit Jeju (decent) and Japan on the ferry (Busanjin is right on the port). With Busan, you're always close to either a beach or a mountain, so either way you can get away from cars and the masses.
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DomesticPelican



Joined: 25 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all of the advice guy. I am going to decide by Tomorrow.

The only thing about Songdo is that people keep telling me it will be great to be a part of the new city and see it develop.

That concerns me because I don't want to deal with ongoing construction the entire time I'm there. Also, since I'm only going to be there for a year, I feel like I will get to see the development stages but won't get to experience the finished product.

I guess if it was 2014 when the city is scheduled to be finished, it may be more likely that I'd decide on Songdo City.


It is probably quite the journey from Busan to Seoul, no?
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lhasa



Joined: 26 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yah, i think you're romanticizing a bit too much re watching the construction of a korean city. sounds like a lot of noise, dust, and frustration.

then again, i'd also recommend you do ample research on cdi....i wouldn't work for them....plus 2.3 is low for cdi....especially if you have a masters

so, my suggestion....busan....but maybe not cdi.
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DomesticPelican



Joined: 25 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lhasa wrote:
yah, i think you're romanticizing a bit too much re watching the construction of a korean city. sounds like a lot of noise, dust, and frustration.

then again, i'd also recommend you do ample research on cdi....i wouldn't work for them....plus 2.3 is low for cdi....especially if you have a masters

so, my suggestion....busan....but maybe not cdi.



Ya, I have heard good and bad things about CDI. It seems just like all the other big schools...it just depends on which branch you are working at.

Apparently they pay their first-year teachers 2.0-2.4 million per month. This is for their April program...which doesn't include weekends or holidays like their other program does. The other program I believe would be paying me about 2.5-2.6. I honestly haven't decided which one to go with yet.

And yes, I feel like having my Masters in Education should help. But it's not helping as much as it could, considering this will be my first time teaching ESL.
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son of coco



Joined: 14 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DomesticPelican wrote:
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It is probably quite the journey from Busan to Seoul, no?


It's not that bad, maybe 4 hours if you take the bus. Quicker on the fast train.

Personally, if I was in Busan I wouldn't see any need to worry about how far Seoul was. You can visit in holidays and enjoy life by the beach. Seoul's close enough to visit on the weekends if you really feel the need.

None of the Korean cities are anything to write home about visually speaking, it's just apartment after apartment, shopping areas and beach-fronts crammed with industry. Watching one develop wouldn't be that exciting in my opinion. It's dusty enough in a normal city (with black gunk collecting on the windowsills) without living in the middle of a construction zone.
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Teddycakes21



Joined: 18 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haeundae beach in Busan is really nice in the summer. I would recommend that.

Before making a commitment, I would implore you to ask the specific location of each school (address), so that you would be able to research its whereabouts. Schools tend to lie a little bit about where they are located and... well... pretty much everything.

Good luck!

=D
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sharkey wrote:
Busanjin is right in the middle of the city as well. You'll have access to anywhere.

Sorry... you can't get there from here.
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