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Morning_Star



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:38 am    Post subject: People who complain yet still renew contracts... Reply with quote

We get it. You hate your life. So please pack your bags and go to whatever hole you came from. This whole western migration to Korea has really put a damper on the job market.
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, guess what: around the world, a lot of people stay at jobs they hate. ESL is no different.

Everyone needs a paycheck.
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anynag



Joined: 01 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes life is about figuring out what you don't want to do. Unfortunately, the bills aren't exactly interested in what you want to do at the time; they just need to get paid.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEVER RENEW CONTRACTS
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dunno sometimes this job really sucks but there's still satisfaction in being a teacher
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ReeseDog



Joined: 05 Apr 2008
Location: Classified

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeinkorea wrote:
NEVER RENEW CONTRACTS


There's an interesting approach.
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ekul



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's worse when you renew and realise the second year is going to be much slower than the first because you don't have that first 4-6months of being wowed by Korea.
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hockeyguy109



Joined: 22 Dec 2008
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ekul wrote:
It's worse when you renew and realise the second year is going to be much slower than the first because you don't have that first 4-6months of being wowed by Korea.


4-6 months? maybe 4-6 weeks. I still haven't figured out why people were wow'd by Korea in the beginning. I didn't wow. Maybe I ewwww-d.
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DrugstoreCowgirl



Joined: 08 May 2009
Location: Daegu-where the streets have no name

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hockeyguy109 wrote:
ekul wrote:
It's worse when you renew and realise the second year is going to be much slower than the first because you don't have that first 4-6months of being wowed by Korea.


4-6 months? maybe 4-6 weeks. I still haven't figured out why people were wow'd by Korea in the beginning. I didn't wow. Maybe I ewwww-d.


I wasn't so much wowed as I was just appreciative of living in another place. Plus day trips on the weekends to temples or new cities is pretty exciting.
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ekul



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hockeyguy109 wrote:
ekul wrote:
It's worse when you renew and realise the second year is going to be much slower than the first because you don't have that first 4-6months of being wowed by Korea.


4-6 months? maybe 4-6 weeks. I still haven't figured out why people were wow'd by Korea in the beginning. I didn't wow. Maybe I ewwww-d.


Tourist activities, learning the language, making friends, checking out the nightlife, adjusting to a new job, holidays, appreciating food and half a dozen other things.

The first three months flew by and the first six months didn't take long either. I'd had it in my head the renew from the half way mark, however since starting my second year this last month has slowed to a crawl. Once I make it to Christmas and a month at home I should be sorted for the next nine months.
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zipper



Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Ruben Carter was falsely accused

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I complained, bickered, ranted, fumed, and hated my co-teacher, but I loved the students; yet I wasn�t stupid or desperate enough to renew the contract. Nope! I am moving on to teach in other countries, because Korea is not the center of the universe nor the only country that pays well, and besides experiencing other cultures and ways of life for me far out weigh the money factor. Razz
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Slowmotion



Joined: 15 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hockeyguy109 wrote:
ekul wrote:
It's worse when you renew and realise the second year is going to be much slower than the first because you don't have that first 4-6months of being wowed by Korea.


4-6 months? maybe 4-6 weeks. I still haven't figured out why people were wow'd by Korea in the beginning. I didn't wow. Maybe I ewwww-d.

Yet you're probably still here cuz no one in the western world would hire you right?
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our school plays this game where they ask us (happened Monday) whether or not we hope to stay next year. In the same mail, they said a committee would hold a vote, then notify us if they wish to keep us on December 31.

This puts us at risk, because we never actually SEE a contract until a month before classes start in March, and that's not even signed/approved by the president. My school could do anything they want to the contract they show me in March, and I would feel pressured to sign something I don't approve of just to have a job.

This year may be my last, because I told them that other univ.'s are now asking for resumes as early as November, and that I feel I must send resumes out to be assured of a job at a decent school next March. If I wait until December 31 to learn if I'm being renewed or not, then I could miss out on the best schools.

We now have 15 foreigners on staff (we used to have 3), have lost private offices, have been given extra duties in a new "English Lounge", and some of us have been asked to teach courses 1-on-1 or in small groups with professors. When we had just 3 or 4 foreigners on staff, we had more leverage. They knew that if they upset us and we just left, they would be up a creek and have to hire someone immediately during vacation. The Korean professors hate having to work during vacation time, and they would just give in if we didn't want to put up with major changes. Now, with many foreigners around, we no longer have such leverage.

I'm preparing for the worst, although I told them I'd rather stay here, provided there aren't any major changes in the contract. It's been a nice 4 years, but you can't allow yourself to be walked on. It's been my experience that as soon as employers sense they can walk on you, the floodgates will open and everything goes to heck. I've seen it happen 3 times in the past, and it feels like we're on a slippery slope.

Anyone in Seoul hiring? Specifically, Hongdae or Sejong?
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, does anyone have that univ. pay scale page that guy put together on his blog?
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