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shifter2009
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Rusty Shackleford
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| Most politicians have the mental development of a pre-adolescent, anyway. How is this surprising? |
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shifter2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Rusty Shackleford wrote: |
| Most politicians have the mental development of a pre-adolescent, anyway. How is this surprising? |
They usually save it for cable news. This was just plain silly. |
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ontheway
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Actually, if you listen carefully, the "gentleman" is "objecting" to the request by the woman representative who is speaking, because she has asked for an order of "unanimous consent" to a request she is making at the beginning of her speech.
Such an "objection" means that there is no unanimous consent and the Speaker of the House is then required to either have the "gentlewoman" withdraw her request for unanimous consent or to proceed to a vote on her request.
It was the speaker at the podium, John Dingel, one of the most evil fascists who has ever lived, who was out of order and not following appropriate procedure which is why the gentleman asked for a point of parliamentary inquiry. Dingel abused his power as speaker and violated the rules of the House. This is typical behavior of the power mad socialists, however, who believe that the rules are there for them to use to ride roughshod over others, but that they themselves are exempt. |
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shifter2009
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, if you listen carefully, the "gentleman" is "objecting" to the request by the woman representative who is speaking, because she has asked for an order of "unanimous consent" to a request she is making at the beginning of her speech.
Such an "objection" means that there is no unanimous consent and the Speaker of the House is then required to either have the "gentlewoman" withdraw her request for unanimous consent or to proceed to a vote on her request.
It was the speaker at the podium, John Dingel, one of the most evil fascists who has ever lived, who was out of order and not following appropriate procedure which is why the gentleman asked for a point of parliamentary inquiry. Dingel abused his power as speaker and violated the rules of the House. This is typical behavior of the power mad socialists, however, who believe that the rules are there for them to use to ride roughshod over others, but that they themselves are exempt. |
You lost me at evil fascist. It does, however, clue me into how you might be the type of person to think this sort of behavior is acceptable. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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I guess when it comes to the insurance and drug industries and their marionettes, they will do anything to maintain the money empire and flow of dirty dollars.
Tom Price will do anything--even act so childish and rudely--to protect his and his friends' financial interests.
Sucha filthy dishonourble "lawmaker" he is! |
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visitorq
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| shifter2009 wrote: |
| ontheway wrote: |
Actually, if you listen carefully, the "gentleman" is "objecting" to the request by the woman representative who is speaking, because she has asked for an order of "unanimous consent" to a request she is making at the beginning of her speech.
Such an "objection" means that there is no unanimous consent and the Speaker of the House is then required to either have the "gentlewoman" withdraw her request for unanimous consent or to proceed to a vote on her request.
It was the speaker at the podium, John Dingel, one of the most evil fascists who has ever lived, who was out of order and not following appropriate procedure which is why the gentleman asked for a point of parliamentary inquiry. Dingel abused his power as speaker and violated the rules of the House. This is typical behavior of the power mad socialists, however, who believe that the rules are there for them to use to ride roughshod over others, but that they themselves are exempt. |
You lost me at evil fascist. It does, however, clue me into how you might be the type of person to think this sort of behavior is acceptable. |
So in other words, you were unable to understand his point? And then you resort to ad hominem to try discredit him, having (admittedly) made no effort to understand? That's really productive... |
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visitorq
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
I guess when it comes to the insurance and drug industries and their marionettes, they will do anything to maintain the money empire and flow of dirty dollars.
Tom Price will do anything--even act so childish and rudely--to protect his and his friends' financial interests.
Sucha filthy dishonourble "lawmaker" he is! |
What evidence do you have that he is "friends" with insurance companies? Do you even realize that Obama-care will benefit insurance companies more than anything? They can't wait for it to pass - they'll make a killing. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| shifter2009 wrote: |
| ontheway wrote: |
Actually, if you listen carefully, the "gentleman" is "objecting" to the request by the woman representative who is speaking, because she has asked for an order of "unanimous consent" to a request she is making at the beginning of her speech.
Such an "objection" means that there is no unanimous consent and the Speaker of the House is then required to either have the "gentlewoman" withdraw her request for unanimous consent or to proceed to a vote on her request.
It was the speaker at the podium, John Dingel, one of the most evil fascists who has ever lived, who was out of order and not following appropriate procedure which is why the gentleman asked for a point of parliamentary inquiry. Dingel abused his power as speaker and violated the rules of the House. This is typical behavior of the power mad socialists, however, who believe that the rules are there for them to use to ride roughshod over others, but that they themselves are exempt. |
You lost me at evil fascist. It does, however, clue me into how you might be the type of person to think this sort of behavior is acceptable. |
You lost me at your attempt to conceal your ignorance of parliamentary procedure by launching an ad hominem attack. |
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Pluto
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Ontheway is right. Dems were calling for unanimous consent. That means it only takes one objection to squash any motion. Rep. John Dingel was out of order here. |
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ontheway
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| Pluto wrote: |
| Ontheway is right. Dems were calling for unanimous consent. That means it only takes one objection to squash any motion. Rep. John Dingel was out of order here. |
It's good that some people get this. There are repeats in the video that were not actually made by the several people who were objecting. The Repblican member did not actually say "object, object, object ..." The video was intended to lie, distort, mislead and embarrass.
Now, I don't like the Rs any more than the Ds. Sometimes one party is right, sometimes the other, often both are wrong. But the House has rules and they should follow them. It might be annoying when some member calls for a quorum or objects to a routine request for unanimous consent, but those are the rules and that's the game they all play. It's part of what is required in the House and Senate to keep order, keep things civil and avoid violence in the chamber. Dingel broke the rules of the House, just like he's willing to do anything to get the power and money he wants at the expense of the public. |
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RufusW
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: |
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This is standard procedure, usually just ignored. But the Republicans used it to shout over the Democrats speeches... because they can't argue, but they can shout.
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| ...John Dingel, one of the most evil fascists who has ever lived... |
Crikey!, he must be bad... I know one fascist... what was his name... errr.. oh, Hitler... and there was that guy from Italy... ummm... Musso.. something... anyway, if this guy is in the top 10 he must be bad.
Ontheway, your comments betray your delusion. |
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ontheway
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| RufusW wrote: |
This is standard procedure, usually just ignored. But the Republicans used it to shout over the Democrats speeches... because they can't argue, but they can shout.
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| ...John Dingel, one of the most evil fascists who has ever lived... |
Crikey!, he must be bad... I know one fascist... what was his name... errr.. oh, Hitler... and there was that guy from Italy... ummm... Musso.. something... anyway, if this guy is in the top 10 he must be bad.
Ontheway, your comments betray your delusion. |
Dingel:
Pro drug war.
Pro victimless crime laws.
Pro universal draft.
Pretty much advocates anything that takes power from the individual and gives it to the state = fascist. |
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RufusW
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| But "one of the most evil fascists who has ever lived"? I think you've been caught by your own hysteria ontheway.... or your own rhetoric... or both. |
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ontheway
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| RufusW wrote: |
| But "one of the most evil fascists who has ever lived"? I think you've been caught by your own hysteria ontheway.... or your own rhetoric... or both. |
I would never give him top billing, and fortunately, he never got the be President, so he hasn't had the chance to prove the full extent of his evil nature. |
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