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raewon
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: If I were .... (grammar question) |
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If I were a president, I would give everybody enough money to buy whatever they (want).
In this conditional, is the correct form "want" or "wanted"? Or could they both be used?
Micheal Swan's Basic English Usage only has "If I were you, I should get that car serviced." Honestly ... this only confuses me more.
Thanks for any insight.
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crossmr

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe its just me, but I'd start that with "If I were president", not "a president". "A president" just sounds strange to me. Usually because most things only have 1 president and when we can only have one of something, we usually refer to it as "the". So either "were president" or "were the president"
if we're talking about fulfilling a current want, we should use present tense I believe. "I would like to help you so that you can write the sentence properly"
Should, as pointed out in this thread, in that kind of sentence is apparently more common in british english:
http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/ask-teacher/25131-should-would-conditional-sentences.html |
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steveinincheon
Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Location: in The Shadows of Gyeyangsan
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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want is correct. In colloquial English "wanted" wouldn't sound that blatantly long, but want is consistent with the present tense.
If I were(conditional present here) president, I would give (conditional present again) everyone enough money to buy whatever they want (indicative present). |
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KevinLS
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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I would agree that want is more correct than wanted, but wanted isn't wholly incorrect. |
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raewon
Joined: 16 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. Funny you mentioned "a president" because at first I also thought it was "wrong". But then again ... I thought "a president" could carry the meaning of "the president of any country". However, I agree that it sounds natural the way you have suggested.
Thank you for your reply. |
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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Since want is a stative verb, it's better to leave it alone, imho.
The second conditional is used to indicate something not likely to happen, yet people will always want for something. However, if someone is less likely to want something, it would be more appropriate to use"wanted."
I would give you my life if you wanted me to. |
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The Cosmic Hum

Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Sonic Space
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: If I were .... (grammar question) |
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raewon wrote: |
If I were a president, I would give everybody enough money to buy whatever they (want).
In this conditional, is the correct form "want" or "wanted"? Or could they both be used?
Micheal Swan's Basic English Usage only has "If I were you, I should get that car service." Honestly ... this only confuses me more.
Thanks for any insight. |
You pose an interesting question.
Crossmr makes a very good suggestion about your article usage...If I were the president...If I were president is much better.
As for should/would/could....these are just modals of individual choice depending on the context of the situation.
Swan is demonstrating the use of the subjunctive mood...If I were...etc...his choice of modal has nothing to do with the example except to demonstate that different geographic regions use different modals at different times.
As for your example ...in the subjunctive mood...both want and wanted can be used...again this will depend on geographic culture as to what sounds more natural to people. |
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crossmr

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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raewon wrote: |
Thanks. Funny you mentioned "a president" because at first I also thought it was "wrong". But then again ... I thought "a president" could carry the meaning of "the president of any country". However, I agree that it sounds natural the way you have suggested.
Thank you for your reply. |
you just showed why it was wrong. Regardless of which country or many countries, each country only has a single president. Each company only has a single president, you might say "a vice president" if your meaning was to refer to companies with more than one vice president. |
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raewon
Joined: 16 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for excellent replies from everyone. I really appreciate it.
I try to respond to other questions when I can ... unfortunately it's not often someone poses I question I feel confident I can offer sound advice on. But I do read and reflect on them.
Kind regards. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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I want money, Mr. President. |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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I think it gives a feeling of known living people when you say "want". If you said wanted, it would sound more general.
"Give the people what they want", specific group of people. "Dear school, my students WANT more candy next Halloween" (another example).
By using "were", you are already distancing yourself from the "people". So, I would say something more like:
If I am president, I will give the people anything they want.
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If I were president, I would give the people what they wanted.
After you give someone something they want, do they want it again? No, so I don't see the logic "want" with "were". |
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