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sigmundsmith



Joined: 22 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:23 pm    Post subject: If a similar package was offered, would you...? Reply with quote

... leave Korea?

I am asking this as the Korean board on this site generates a high rate of negativity compared to other countries that employ a high rate of EFL instructors.

For example, if Japan or China offered what is given in Korea and you could save reasonably the same amount of money would you leave?

I have a funny feeling that Korea knows this. They may understand that Korea is not friendly to non-Koreans and that other Asian countries are more attractive to live, adjust and work in. So, they offer a substantial package that easily out-weighs those offered elswhere.

Even though I enjoy my life in Korea, am doing my masters at a University in Seoul and see some potential for myself here (career wise) I could quite easily go left or right of Korea.

NB. Sorry if this has been done before. Did a search but unsuccessful.
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benji1422



Joined: 02 Jun 2009
Location: Los Angeles & Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude are you kidding? Most self-aware Koreans are aware of all the s--- that gets talked about on here: The sexual racial politics of the korean girl sl-t/korean guy stud hypocrisy, the xenophobia, the bad driving, the can-you-eat-kimchi-can-you-use-chopchicks nonsense. ALL OF IT.

I have a sense that most EFLers are only interacting with lower middle class or middle class Koreans who have never left Korea or Asia and have never lived overseas and are vaguely similar to the Sarah Palin/Fox news hicks in Georgia/Ohio who have similarly skewed/retarded views about the rest of the world as well. You act like Koreans have a patent on knee-jerk nationalism.

But yeah, self-aware people who have been educated outside the country or speak English with fluency are aware of all the weirdness in their country and have been honest to me about it... and that is a big reason why they offer you guys the incentives. Because they know Japan/China is more attractive in terms of status.
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Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd still choose Korea because the alphabet is easier. Makes it so less complicated reading the menus in restaurants.
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Tundra_Creature



Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a similar package in the northern tundra regions of Canada, but that itself is also a different ballgame.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes.
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a heartbeat.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Change of scenery never hurt anyone.
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UknowsI



Joined: 16 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I simply like Korea as it is and wouldn't want to be any other place even if they paid me. I guess that's why I am in Korea...

(I am not saying Korea is perfect of course)
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sarahsiobhan



Joined: 24 May 2009
Location: Wherever I am , I am probably drinking tea.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tundra Creature, those jobs in the North are well paid, certainly, but I am not sure that the savings aspect would be the same, as the cost of living is huge up there. I could be wrong, though.

Although, your username would suggest it would be a perfect job for you!

:)

And to answer the OP's question.....yes.
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Tundra_Creature



Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sarahsiobhan wrote:
Tundra Creature, those jobs in the North are well paid, certainly, but I am not sure that the savings aspect would be the same, as the cost of living is huge up there. I could be wrong, though.

Although, your username would suggest it would be a perfect job for you!

Smile

And to answer the OP's question.....yes.


Ha-ha. Actually, I was born and raised up in the north, hence the name Razz Mom was a teacher up there (now basically a lifer and works as a ped counselor for one of the school boards up north).

But yeah, the cost of living can be really expensive especially compared to Korea, China, etc, but it does tend to even out with the pay that you get. I was a cashier back when I was a teenager and I started at $10/h. Groceries are ridiculously priced. When I first moved down to the city and noticed what the real prices were, I had a heart attack. Though I do know that you can have a certain amount of cargo sent up for free, so I know a lot of people who just do their shopping down in the city and then ship it up by plane during summer and winter vacations.

I loved it as a kid (tons openspace, wild animals, parents don't have to worry about people kidnapping you), but hated during highschool. Life up here is certainly far from perfect. I know that some of the complaints I see here can be applied to what goes up North.

But there are some people who really have great experiences as well (hell, my mom has been there for over 20 years and still loves it). I'd definantly say it's not for everyone, but for some it really does just click. I have mixed feelings personally. Great for some things, terrible for others.

Sorry, ranting! I'm done now. Embarassed
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Electron cloud

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would give 30 days notice as I love my school, but yeah I'd be in Japan like a shot once that was up. Or I might wait till the end of my contract, so I can mentally prepare for leaving all my firends in Korea and starting up a whole new life again...

But either way I'd be GAAAAAAAAWWWWWWNNNN!
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Whitey Otez



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: The suburbs of Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think most of us didn't go to university with Korea in mind.
I think most of us came to Korea with further destinations in mind.
I think most of us wish every country could pay comparably so that we could actually move on and not feel like we are making a poor financial decision.
I think my friends that have gone off either home or to a different place are happier that my friends who have stayed here year after year.
I think no matter where you go, you bring your own problems with you, but there are certain places and societies that add their problems to your problems.

So to the OP, I'd say absolutely, I'd move to any other country that offered a similar deal.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was offered a great job in another place with a similar package. It was for a 3 year contract, though, a time period which I wasn't too keen on.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

similar packages already exist in Japan and China, only it's harder to get in the former case and only a small percentage of jobs in the latter case

give me a similar package in Thailand and I'd be out of here, but not China or Japan
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give me a similar package in the Ukraine, Austria, or Amsterdam. Forget Asia! Laughing
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