Korean Job Discussion Forums

chaz47 · Joined: 11 Sep 2003

If MA holders are actually willing to take this drek then it is little wonder that I, a humble BA holder with 5 years of experience (2 at uni) cannot get another uni posting.

YIKES...

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=40561

Seems the pay is low. There is mandatory overtime and vacation is about equal to some public school gigs. AND, they expect to fill this position with those abysmal conditions/benefits in the next 6 weeks.

I gotta say, if they do, then the ship has probably sailed on university jobs over here. And, it may just be time to enact my Plan D which is to get a paralegal license and move back to the land of the fatties. One thing the US will always need is legal workers.

blackjack · Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang

2 months vacation
2 months on overtime
2.3 million per month (but an extra 800,000 from overtime)
12 regular hours and 6 overtime hours

I don't think it is as "end of the world" drek as you are saying. Not the best but certainly not the worst

sheba · Joined: 16 May 2005 Location: Here there and everywhere!

I just saw a uni position which compares to an academy.

30 hrs a week
1.9 with off campus housing, or 2.1 with a dorm room.
2 weeks vacation

BoholDiver · Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada

It's not an awful job. It just looks awful because of their seemingly high expectations for education and experience.

I bet in the end they will accept someone with a B.A. and 1 year experience.

cdninkorea · Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul

Well, that's probably why I see job ads for PUFS every semester for the past few years: the conditions aren't very good. I have seen much worse, but that says more about how bad those jobs are than anything about PUFS.

Moldy Rutabaga · Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea

I think many Korean universities are pulling this sort of scheme in their hiring. They offer a mediocre wage and ask for an MA or PhD, and then settle for a BA. And if they do get someone with an MA, that's gravy.

In their defense, though, Busan is a less costly place to live than Seoul, and by local standards the salary isn't that bad.

Nexus11 · Joined: 29 Nov 2006

Employers also realize that the economy sucks in most Western countries, plus the teaching market is still feeling the effects of the Nova shutdown in Japan. The supply of teachers is as high as it has ever been, so they can lowball their offers and still end up getting what they want. My guess is that they will get some chump with an MA to take this job.

KoreanAmbition · Joined: 03 Feb 2008

djsmnc · Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

hugekebab · Joined: 05 Jan 2008

The apartments they give out are slap bang on gwangali beach, or at least the one when I was being interviewed was.

PRagic · Joined: 24 Feb 2006

Could be worse, especially if the housing is included and near a beach. It is a national university, so I doubt that they'll end up just taking BA holders. I don't know if it's official policy, but aren't national universities required to hire only MA holders for ESL positions? Could be wrong on this, but I do know that SNU won't hire BA holders, even at the institute.

At any rate, not too bad of a slot for someone with an MA but no experience looking to break into university teaching.

Hyeon Een · Joined: 24 Jun 2005