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been_that_done_there



Joined: 19 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: How ridiculous - a forced resignation letter Reply with quote

I'M SO MAD. My school is trying to force me to write a resignation letter that says I have found my time here to be valuable and I must express my appreciation & high esteem of the EPIC program. I have to say that the officers have done their best to ensure that my stay in Korea was rewarding and memorable. I must also say that I am leaving for personal reasons and not because of any fault or oversight on the part of the program. I HAVE REFUSED & WRITTEN MY OWN LETTER.
Considering that I am in a technical school, my time here has been one big joke. Even after complaints to EPIC and asking for a transfer, nothing was done. My first experience of Korea was been met by 4 drunk education officers. My second experience was a witch for a coteacher who tried to make me buy my own TV even though my contract says that I get a TV. She also tried to con me into moving into her apartment so that she could take the 400,000 won housing allowance. She told me what a philanderer her husband is and yet she wanted me to live with them and their 2 spoilt teenagers. She has lied, manipulated and cheated (given children answers to exams) which has led to her been demoted, taken off the English program as head teacher and been moved from her private office to a communal office.
I have met some really kind Koreans, but overall my experience here as sucked big time. I'm so over this saving face crap.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do a runner then
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nero



Joined: 11 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They will probably use that letter to entice someone else into the job. So, to make things clear - have you resigned already?
If so, tell them to stick it.
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been_that_done_there



Joined: 19 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have already booked my ticket home as I have been here for 7 months so I don't need to do a runner.
I wrote my own letter and gave it to them. So who knows what will happen now.
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Buffalo



Joined: 15 Aug 2009
Location: Ilsan

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am assuming that you are the first foreign teacher at your school.
Did you speak with your district coordinator yet? I suggest finding out who your EPIC rep is and giving them a shout. If that doesn't work, then I suggest calling up the recruiter that got you the job and give them an ear full. Don't let those sassy hooligans get away with anything. I'm sure they will find many corrupt happenings going on at your school. They are probably dipping into your foreign teacher budget.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EPIC is for Chungnam, right?

A friend of mine did a runner two year ago. His experience was very similar to the OP. Razz
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. I work for EPIC.

Which school are you at? (If you don't want to give away your identity, I understand and please ignore my question Smile
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been_that_done_there



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in a small rural village and I don't want to give away my identity as I know my life can be made very difficult here. I only have a month to go.
I am also confused by whether I work for EPIC or not. Here's why. When I wanted to attend the orientation for new teachers at EPIC, I was told that I was hired directly from a recruiter and that I don't work for EPIC. But here's the kicker. My contract that I signed says EPIC. When I complained about the situation here and asked for a transfer, I was told that I cannot be transferred because I was hired from a recruiter. So it seems that I only work for EPIC in certain situations.
The whole technical school situation is a joke. The English levels of the 16-19 year old kids are the same as 4-8 year olds. I see them once a week for 50 minutes but I am expected to teach them to speak in English even though I have them less than 4 hours a month. Confused
I see a group of 17 kids called my interns everyday. I know for them I have made a difference but as for the hundreds of other sleeping, grooming, cell phone playing, ipod listening, disrespectful, spitting, screeching, lazy kids, I have not done one iota of good.
I have NO resources, syllabus, program or anything to work with. I have spent many hours creating wonderful visual presentations only to be faced with total disinterest. So now I just play games. I am a really good teacher, but they have just about broken my spirit.
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lookingforworkinasia



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I often look forward to writing my resignation letter. Don't let them tell you what to do. You're out of there.
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

been_that_done_there wrote:
I am in a small rural village and I don't want to give away my identity as I know my life can be made very difficult here. I only have a month to go.
I am also confused by whether I work for EPIC or not. Here's why. When I wanted to attend the orientation for new teachers at EPIC, I was told that I was hired directly from a recruiter and that I don't work for EPIC. But here's the kicker. My contract that I signed says EPIC. When I complained about the situation here and asked for a transfer, I was told that I cannot be transferred because I was hired from a recruiter. So it seems that I only work for EPIC in certain situations.
The whole technical school situation is a joke. The English levels of the 16-19 year old kids are the same as 4-8 year olds. I see them once a week for 50 minutes but I am expected to teach them to speak in English even though I have them less than 4 hours a month. Confused
I see a group of 17 kids called my interns everyday. I know for them I have made a difference but as for the hundreds of other sleeping, grooming, cell phone playing, ipod listening, disrespectful, spitting, screeching, lazy kids, I have not done one iota of good.
I have NO resources, syllabus, program or anything to work with. I have spent many hours creating wonderful visual presentations only to be faced with total disinterest. So now I just play games. I am a really good teacher, but they have just about broken my spirit.


Jsut in case it makes you feel any better I know friends wo work in Tech High schools and the say the same things... They say the trick is to just coast through the day pplaying videos of Simpsons and tom and Jerry and ask 3 questions about the video at the end etc... It;s the kind of job you do for an easyt ride, not one you should take seriosuly. But the sad thing is of course only us cynical vets who have been in this industry long enough have seen through the veneer and learend the secrets to an easy life. You might call me lazy or a cop out, but you can't fight it. You just can't fight it, so why bother with the stress?
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haven't been there, haven't done that
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been_that_done_there



Joined: 19 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How I would love to be able to watch video clips, etc. but my witchy co-teacher has already complained that I use the computer too much in my lessons. I use the computer to show the kids visual PowerPoint presentations.
I am unfortunately not allowed to watch movies and in some classes I don't have the technology to do that. I would if I could. But thanks for the suggestion.
I don't think it's a cop out. It's more a case of been driven to it.

@VanIslander - thank your lucky stars that you haven't been there or done that.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: How ridiculous - a forced resignation letter Reply with quote

been_that_done_there wrote:
I'M SO MAD. My school is trying to force me to write a resignation letter that says I have found my time here to be valuable and I must express my appreciation & high esteem of the EPIC program. I have to say that the officers have done their best to ensure that my stay in Korea was rewarding and memorable. I must also say that I am leaving for personal reasons and not because of any fault or oversight on the part of the program. I HAVE REFUSED & WRITTEN MY OWN LETTER.
Considering that I am in a technical school, my time here has been one big joke. Even after complaints to EPIC and asking for a transfer, nothing was done. My first experience of Korea was been met by 4 drunk education officers. My second experience was a witch for a coteacher who tried to make me buy my own TV even though my contract says that I get a TV. She also tried to con me into moving into her apartment so that she could take the 400,000 won housing allowance. She told me what a philanderer her husband is and yet she wanted me to live with them and their 2 spoilt teenagers. She has lied, manipulated and cheated (given children answers to exams) which has led to her been demoted, taken off the English program as head teacher and been moved from her private office to a communal office.
I have met some really kind Koreans, but overall my experience here as sucked big time. I'm so over this saving face crap.


Ha ha. I'll bet she was really excited about the prospect of making some coin. "He'll go for it. I know he will!"
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: How ridiculous - a forced resignation letter Reply with quote

been_that_done_there wrote:
I'M SO MAD. My school is trying to force me to write a resignation letter that says I have found my time here to be valuable and I must express my appreciation & high esteem of the EPIC program. I have to say that the officers have done their best to ensure that my stay in Korea was rewarding and memorable. I must also say that I am leaving for personal reasons and not because of any fault or oversight on the part of the program. I HAVE REFUSED & WRITTEN MY OWN LETTER.


Ahaha, I wrote a letter like that when I resigned from EPIC (then a part of EPIK). I submitted my barebones "I'm not going to be working here anymore effective this date" letter and they told me I had to give a reason. Then they showed me a letter that a different teacher had written as an example and WOW. WOW. I believe it was similar to the letter you just wrote! Laughing

I think I still have a copy of it. Yep, they gave me a copy of someone else's angry resignation letter complete with the names of the coteachers who made her life miserable.

I refused to write a new letter also, iirc. I just wanted to leave with no fuss and no drama, but I wasn't going to LIE and say the job was great either.
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davesucksnfl



Joined: 11 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are many cases were your school is part of the epik program, but you are hired privately by the city. Some schools have apparently managed to get total control of the money allotted for a foreign teacher and hire them with no oversight, but with public funds. Based on what you've written you're in that camp. If you're a city hire there would have been city events to do AND extra hours for the city. But if you haven't done anything like that you were a direct hire from the school.

Craptastic times are all over the place, and the Korean education system leaves a hell of a lot to be desired.
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