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jimmyjames1982
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 Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: AsianEFL TESOL Certificate Hoax? |
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I signed up for the asianesl certificate program, paid the fee ($82), and completed the course. The course itself was somewhat sketchy to begin with. I had to write a 2000 word essay comparing and contrasting different teaching methods used in TESL. I completed the essay and sent it to the email address given. I was told that my paper was fine and that they would need my address in order to send the certificate. I soon after emailed them with my address in S. Korea and the exact name I wanted on the certificate.
Two months later I have not received my certificate nor will they answer any of my numerous email attempts.
Has anyone had success obtaining a certificate from this so called company? The email they use is [email protected]
http://www.tesol-global.com/
I think I've been scammed to tell you the truth. For all of you looking to get a tesol certificate, I would not use this company. |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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JJ,
Did you get your money returned? If not, unfortunate.
Here are a few other concerned people about this:
http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/tesol/index.pl?read=2844
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=73613
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http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teaching/teaching-abroad/free-tefl-course-speaks/
That link is where I first started to get a sense that I'd been scammed, after reading the stories of a few other people. I just made a post there tonight as well.
At first the certificate was highly recommended by the otherwise helpful (and now dead) efl-law.com forums.
I think Time Taylor bought out that website, removed the forum and replaced it with a FAQ.
The same might be true of the Asian EFL Journal website.
If that's not enough, I suspect "Time Taylor International" might be just one guy with a very suspicious personal website: http://www.paul-robertson.org/
Has anyone ever been to one of the conferences and seen him in person?
Regards,
SU |
Just curious what was the result? If anyone else has info abut outcomes and dealings with this organization. Please reply.
I too became indirectly involved after giving teacher training at EPIK and then learning that he provided those that attended my own and EPIK's session with a certificate if they paid $500 + dollars and attended his conference in Busan. He also falsely claimed they'd get a pay raise and I confirmed with EPIK that it isn't the case and they regret having anything to do with him in terms of EPIK training.
He says - http://www.asian-efl-recruiters.com/EPIK.php
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| a) Free and accredited 120 TESOL certificate. This is offered through the Asian EFL Journal-Anaheim University and you can receive credit at USQ or other listed universities should you go on to Masters level studies.Also once you have this Certificate you are eligible for a pay rise under the EPIK contract of 1,000,000 Won a month. This is a substantial pay rise. |
Something is amiss. On "who is" http://whois.domaintools.com/efl-law.com you can get who the site is registered under. There are 1,486 domains registered under that IP address. What?
I'm just wondering what others know given the fact that it seems there are so many outlandish and contradictory and fantastical claims made by Time Taylor. Also given the info. in these two links.
Wikipedia - EFL Law
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EFL Law Global Forum - cached page
Perhaps there has only been a misunderstanding. But I'm wondering.
I really think this is ONLY about the money. There are all these franchises and journals and empty links on his site. Everything turns into some claim of grandeur.
Also, it seems that he runs a TESOL accrediting organization - I-TAA which accredits his TESOL course. How can you accredit yourself?
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| The I-TAA (International TESOL Accrediting Authority) has accredited the Asian EFL Journal TESOL Course. |
He also makes this totally false claim:
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| Potential employers (universities and many government EFL programs -EPIK, NET, JET) will NOT consider an on-line certificate that has not been accredited by the I-TAA. |
Along with this one:
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| The Asian EFL Journal / Time Taylor College Certificate (and CELTA) are the ONLY Certificates recognized world wide. |
http://www.i-taa.com/index.php
I could go on further but I really do want to stop this kind of proselytizing of TESOL degrees dead in its tracks. We need high quality courses and reputable degree providers - not a lot of wild west stuff. (you shouldn't get a certificate for attending a conference and one special 2 hour session and promising to read some stuff - as his Busan conference preported).
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TESOL Certificate 120 hours.
Part 1. Attend the Conference.
Attend the TESOL lecture session with Professor Ellis at 5.30 p.m. at the Conference
Part 1A. Attend Sunday 12th from 1:00-5:30 p.m. for lectures from Conference professors and other invited speakers.
Part 2. Provide proof of University degree
Part 3. Provide proof of working as an EFL ESL teacher for 6 months or more
Part 4. Complete a written exercise (OR) come to the Asian ESP Conference May 25th in Pusan schedule
Part 5. Undertake to do the readings (estimated at 40 hours) as your time permits� |
He claims to have a doctorate in education but I'm wondering if that is just another claim.
DD
http://eflclassroom.com |
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proustme
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Location: Nowon-gu
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I feel sorry for your loss of cash, but you can't Paypal your way to teacher education, sir. Get yourself in a real classroom, yes, for a 30 day program with an onsite teacher training course (International House, CELTA, Trinity TESOL). You'll actually learn real teaching skills. Even try graduate school.
It looks like you learned the street skills of online TESOL/TEFLs. They bank on the naivete of those wishing to become real English teachers by sitting in front of their computers rather than attending a real-life teacher program. Don't worry. The fat cats behind the online programs here in Korea and around the world drank whiskey on your money while sitting on a beach in Thailand.
Your perforated, printed-off certificate with fake accreditation wasn't going to mean anything anyway to real English teachers. South Korea accepts online certificates because it doesn't care. Didn't you see this coming? Looked easy, huh? Learning real English teaching skills and methodologies isn't a paused game of The Sims while drinking your Mountain Dew. |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| proustme wrote: |
I feel sorry for your loss of cash, but you can't Paypal your way to teacher education, sir. Get yourself in a real classroom, yes, for a 30 day program with an onsite teacher training course (International House, CELTA, Trinity TESOL). You'll actually learn real teaching skills. Even try graduate school.
It looks like you learned the street skills of online TESOL/TEFLs. They bank on the naivete of those wishing to become real English teachers by sitting in front of their computers rather than attending a real-life teacher program. Don't worry. The fat cats behind the online programs here in Korea and around the world drank whiskey on your money while sitting on a beach in Thailand.
Your perforated, printed-off certificate with fake accreditation wasn't going to mean anything anyway to real English teachers. South Korea accepts online certificates because it doesn't care. Didn't you see this coming? Looked easy, huh? Learning real English teaching skills and methodologies isn't a paused game of The Sims while drinking your Mountain Dew. |
You should hold on real tight. You have your medical insurance card right? |
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Manuel_the_Bandito
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: AsianEFL TESOL Certificate Hoax? |
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| jimmyjames1982 wrote: |
I signed up for the asianesl certificate program, paid the fee ($82), and completed the course. The course itself was somewhat sketchy to begin with. I had to write a 2000 word essay comparing and contrasting different teaching methods used in TESL. I completed the essay and sent it to the email address given. I was told that my paper was fine and that they would need my address in order to send the certificate. I soon after emailed them with my address in S. Korea and the exact name I wanted on the certificate.
Two months later I have not received my certificate nor will they answer any of my numerous email attempts.
Has anyone had success obtaining a certificate from this so called company? The email they use is [email protected]
http://www.tesol-global.com/
I think I've been scammed to tell you the truth. For all of you looking to get a tesol certificate, I would not use this company. |
What kind of "course" did you think you'd get for $82? |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Thanks for cleaning up the wikipedia and links.
I'm really wondering who changed this.
DD
http://eflclassroom.com
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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that isn't what that means. The IP address belongs to the hosting company. It means this particular host is hosting 1500 websites. most professional companies host on shared sites and they'll often report high numbers there. |
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