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There must be some mistake (Vacation)
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: There must be some mistake (Vacation) Reply with quote

So apparently my school's winter break is from Dec 20th-Jan 31st (approx. 6 weeks) 3 of which I have to teach winter camp; THEN, there is spring break from Feb. 12th-Feb.28th. I am not complaining but this seems like a copious amount of time even if I am teaching rural. Is there something I'm overlooking, or do I really get this much time off?

No lo comprendo.
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PIGFACESOUPWITHRICE



Joined: 17 Nov 2009
Location: Electron Cloud

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the joys of Public school Triban.

Seems par for the course.

The only issue now is, will they make you come in and do full days of desk warming during the hols or will they turn the blind eye and let you not come in and 'prepare materials at home.'

I've always been granted the 2nd option luckilly.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well they said during winter camp I could teach in the morning and then leave, so it looks hopeful. God bless rural schools.
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bcoral99



Joined: 26 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this seems normal. i believe all schools have winter break. Then teachers come back for a week or two for graduation and then there is spring break until the start of the new year. i guess it will depend on your school whether you go to school or not. hopefully many of us do not.
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do get it off keep mum. Last year some posters bragged about getting the whole break off and not having to desk-warm. Some other posters complained to EPIK or someplace and then everyone was forced to desk-warm.
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Loudog



Joined: 22 Oct 2009
Location: Shiheung

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school is new with not a lot of students yet. So I only have one week of camp and the break is from dec 31-feb 9th! and I think that there is also a spring break too. I hope I am not going to have to desk warm the whole time...
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oskinny1 wrote:
If you do get it off keep mum. Last year some posters bragged about getting the whole break off and not having to desk-warm. Some other posters complained to EPIK or someplace and then everyone was forced to desk-warm.


Some people are full of hate I guess; I'll probably end up coming in.
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steveinincheon



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: in The Shadows of Gyeyangsan

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah,
that sounds pretty typical for vacation time. If you do have to desk warm you can probably just find some good tv shows or movies to watch online and no one will care. If you are one of the lucky ones that gets unofficial time off, do what the other poster said and STFU about it.
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kerbythepurplecow



Joined: 02 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am rural and under 100 kids. I'll have 4 weeks of camp and have to desk warm in the afternoons after the camp. If I'm not on vacation I'll be here keeping my room warm. So, it's not all rural schools, it's just the luck of the draw.
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year's winter break, my school did everything by the book, which meant I kept a desk warm for all but my contracted two weeks of vacation. The VP has started to relax with me though, and this summer I was given an extra week of vacation, and this winter it looks like I'll get the whole thing, save for a week and a half of camps. Cool.

That having been said, before all the new guys start getting bent out of shape, be fair with your schools. Technically you were only promised your contracted vacation. I know it sucks that some of us have to be there for no reason, but the schools are not obligated to give us more than our contracted time off.

Also, from what I understand, most districts have people checking up quite thoroughly on where the NSETs are during vacation time (trying to assure that they aren't getting extra vacation), so your VP and P could get into some hot water if anyone were to find out they gave you extra vacation. It's not always just for no reason. They have people they have to answer to as well. My co-teacher basically had to lie for me to cover up that extra week I had in the summer. Try to understand where they are coming from before you get too worked up.
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am just trying to understand why there is a need for desk warming. Why send someone out to make sure you are sitting in an empty unheated school with nothing to do but develop resentment for your employer.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oskinny1 wrote:
I am just trying to understand why there is a need for desk warming. Why send someone out to make sure you are sitting in an empty unheated school with nothing to do but develop resentment for your employer.


Powertripping ajeoshi/ajumma P or VP gets their kicks from it. Knows they can replace one monkey with another come the next year. Rinse and repeat here in Korea.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, they technically can make you come in and sit at your desk for 40 hours monday to friday. however, since you're in a rural position, i think it's unlikely they will.

you could feel around to see what their ideas on the subject are. get some details on your camps and casually ask what you should do when you're not teaching.
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
oskinny1 wrote:
I am just trying to understand why there is a need for desk warming. Why send someone out to make sure you are sitting in an empty unheated school with nothing to do but develop resentment for your employer.


Powertripping ajeoshi/ajumma P or VP gets their kicks from it. Knows they can replace one monkey with another come the next year. Rinse and repeat here in Korea.


Again, it's not always the VPs and Ps. Sometimes (in my case, at least), it's coming from higher up. Now. Why the MOE cares if I'm sitting on my tail doing eff all in my apartment or in their office, I haven't the foggiest idea. You know how it goes here. Mr./Mrs. X works their way up the food chain and then revisit their earlier suffering with an iron fist on those now beneath them.

My VP and P certainly do not want to replace this particular monkey. Too much paperwork and headache, and they've already had two headcase FTs in the past. Which is why I think they're willing to stick their necks out and let me "work from home" these days. I do my job, don't complain, show up on time and haven't disappeared out of the country for any unaccounted for amount of time. To them, at this point, that makes me gold. A big thank-you-very-gamsa to the two previous boneheads who picked a fight with the principal directly and fled the country after causing a nightmare of a month for one of the co-teachers, respectively, for making my life here incredibly easy.
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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just hope they don't come back a year from now and say that you have to re-pay the money they gave you for that time off. If they get you to fill out an attendance sheet be careful that it only shows that you took the contracted vacation off. The school board has been asking to see my attendance sheets recently and we've been very careful with them for that reason. Even though they gave me permission to take that time off, there is a chance the higher-ups will tell the school that the money has to be paid back.
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