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dirving



Joined: 19 Nov 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: My Co-Teacher is an Ass Reply with quote

My co-teacher on Thursdays and Fridays has been an ass to me since the time we were introduced to one another. I let him know that we have to try to get along if we are to be a successful team, but he's still passive-aggressive towards me. He won't even look at me and ignores my questions- even in front of the other teachers during lunch. Are we supposed to inform District Office about this sort of thing?
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get used to it, lol. Most likely, he doesn't know what to say. I have gone to stores several times and Koreans try to engage in conversation. I usually do the same thing, lol

I think you should look at what he is doing a far as the job of co-teaching. Does he command most of the class when he teaches, or does he translate more for you. I am betting on the first or he doesn't teach the classes.

If he is young he is being told to do things from the higher ups, and you talking about job related stuff just adds to their workload. Try to bring up conversation that has direct bearing on something that is part of your job. That is their job, to make sure you are doing your job. Then, you can add whatever you want into that conversation when they are listening.

If you just openly initiate conversation on something, they often react "oh yea, great, have a nice day now".

Another thing, your co-teacher isn't looking at your relationship as a being a team. You are there to fulfill the job of a native speaker in parallel to the Korean teacher reporting to the higher ups that everything is ok. They aren't a player on a team looking to pass you the ball. More accurately, they are on the sideline taking notes and following orders.


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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it affecting the teaching in the class room or just a personality issue as co-workers?

You go back to SMOE as a last resort.

Here's the progression you need to do:

1. Talk to them in private.
2. Get another teacher to talk to them
3. Get your head teacher to talk to them
4. Get your vice principal to talk to them
5. Get your principal to talk to them
6. Get your owner (If its a private schools) to talk to them



10. If there's absolutely no support. You go to SMOE.
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go out and get s-hitfaced with him.

He will either get over his shyness or forever avoid you like the plague.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is he with other people? Is he pass-aggro just with you?

Could give him a ddong-chim and tell him to loosen up. Wink

TGIF!
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soakitincider



Joined: 19 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1. If he's JUST an ass, (not a backstabbing, snitching, lazy mo-fo submarining you at every opportunity) consider yourself lucky. What's worked for me on many occasions, but is difficult for thin-skinned folk, is being nicer as he becomes more of an ass. Sickningly so. When he realizes you won't go where he is trying to lead you, he'll find something/someone else to share his misery with. Just don't go there. Here you can't win, you can't tie, you're wrong, period. Smile, finish your day, then do what makes you happy. Good luck!
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: My Co-Teacher is an Ass Reply with quote

dirving wrote:
... passive-aggressive towards me. He won't even look at me and ignores my questions- even in front of the other teachers during lunch.

You don't understand The Korean Way.
You need a cultural awareness course.
Welcome to Sparkling Korea!
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd give sucking up a shot first. bring in some baked goodies for the office and offer him some.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

soakitincider wrote:
+1. If he's JUST an ass, (not a backstabbing, snitching, lazy mo-fo submarining you at every opportunity) consider yourself lucky. What's worked for me on many occasions, but is difficult for thin-skinned folk, is being nicer as he becomes more of an ass. Sickningly so. When he realizes you won't go where he is trying to lead you, he'll find something/someone else to share his misery with. Just don't go there. Here you can't win, you can't tie, you're wrong, period. Smile, finish your day, then do what makes you happy. Good luck!
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This is a good technique in general. Make sure it is condescendingly opaque as well. To people observing from the outside, it will seem you are being unfailingly nice. Whilst, all the time you can still get your snarky jabs in.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
soakitincider wrote:
+1. If he's JUST an ass, (not a backstabbing, snitching, lazy mo-fo submarining you at every opportunity) consider yourself lucky. What's worked for me on many occasions, but is difficult for thin-skinned folk, is being nicer as he becomes more of an ass. Sickningly so. When he realizes you won't go where he is trying to lead you, he'll find something/someone else to share his misery with. Just don't go there. Here you can't win, you can't tie, you're wrong, period. Smile, finish your day, then do what makes you happy. Good luck!
Very Happy


This is a good technique in general. Make sure it is condescendingly opaque as well. To people observing from the outside, it will seem you are being unfailingly nice. Whilst, all the time you can still get your snarky jabs in.


But must be careful as your co-teacher could become your worst enemy and make your life hell.

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Here you can't win, you can't tie, you're wrong, period.
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dirving



Joined: 19 Nov 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies.

Actually, I just began last Friday and have not taught with him yet because of some kind of big test, which has cancelled all of my classes. So, after making some tentative lesson plans for next week, which he has not seen yet, I've nothing to do until it's time to go home.

Today at lunch, he came to the table and then sat down directly across from me. He picked up his chopsticks and then cupped his head in his right hand and then shook his head back and forth a few times. He then stared at his tray with an angry look on his face for a few seconds until I asked him if everything is alright. He said yes, took a bite of rice, and then continued to stare at the tray with his hand supporting his brow while he quickly shoveled food into his mouth. I tried to talk to him, but he ignored me. So, I left the table.

I think that he hates or resents me.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans don't make eye contact it's considered rude. Next time you see a kid getting shouted at by a teacher. Observe it. The student will look towards the ground. This is what he is expected to do. I agree about going out for a drink. Possibly some soju with Samgyupsal. He might loosen up.Unless he's a Christian then it's most likely he will never loosen up.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dirving wrote:

Today at lunch, he came to the table and then sat down directly across from me. He picked up his chopsticks and then cupped his head in his right hand and then shook his head back and forth a few times. He then stared at his tray with an angry look on his face for a few seconds until I asked him if everything is alright. He said yes, took a bite of rice, and then continued to stare at the tray with his hand supporting his brow while he quickly shoveled food into his mouth. I tried to talk to him, but he ignored me. So, I left the table.

I think that he hates or resents me.


Obviously, he is under extreme stress or suffering from depression of some sort. Be careful. He might be a psycho.
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dirving



Joined: 19 Nov 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ramen,

I hope this is what it's all about. I have tried to be friendly to him.

Thanks for the reply!
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Cerulean



Joined: 19 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does he speak English?
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