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The media don't always hate on native teachers

 
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: The media don't always hate on native teachers Reply with quote

http://us.asiancorrespondent.com/korea-beat/-at-school-we-are-losers-.htm

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Native speakers particularly point out problems involved in co-teaching with Korean teachers. Native speakers are absolutely required to co-teach. This is because they do not have teaching certifications. This is why they are known as �native speaker assistant teachers� rather than �native speaker teachers�. The co-teaching system has the potential of combining the best points of native speakers and Korean teachers. The system has native speakers handle speaking and listening, while Korean teachers handle reading and writing. Here, the attitude on the part of the Korean teacher can set an example for disinterested students.

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That is the important variable in the quality of the �teamwork� between Korean teachers and native speakers. Korean schools must take care when selecting the co-teacher who will teach with a native speaker. 24-year old American Beth, who works in a high school, said, �the Korean teachers assigned to us seem to take the attitude of being lucky to have someone to dump extra work on� It would be good if there an education program for Korean teachers, ones who want it, to help us fit into the school and improve our lessons.� Accordingly, they say, while the problem of �qualification-less� teachers gets play in the media, the real problem is �preparation-less� Korean schools that lack high-quality human resources.
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Manuel_the_Bandito



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst the article is rather sympathetic it's also terribly unrealistic. Indeed contracts may refer to NETs as "assistants" but that's often a very misleading title to give them, as it very often isn't the role they'll be playing. The part about Korean teachers teaching writing is simply farcical. Most couldn't pass a real undergraduate class on English writing, much less teach the subject. And then there's the old matter of "qualifications", something no one can accurately identify. The vast majority of KETs are obviously unqualified to teach speaking and writing and when it comes to NETs all but a handful of kyopos and westerners with exceptional fluency are unqualified to perform all the duties and paperwork of a regular teacher. Qualified should be replaced with "able" to give a better perspective on what can and should be done.
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some waygug-in



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay! Nice title for that article. Confused

I must say that they sure cherry picked what they chose to put in there.
And they sure harped on about "untrained native teachers".

What about those who do have teaching certificates and are treated the same way?

Oh well, at least it was better than the usual.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, doesn't ALWAYS . . . just usually does.

This was discussed here:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=171427

As another poster's students were the ones writing it:
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I'm posting this for a student so that she can get better sample to write her article. Please take some time and do this survey if you can spare it. You can PM me your responses and I'll forward them to her or you can send them to the email below. Thanks.

Hello, we're the student reporters from the 'Hankyoreh' newspaper. We're planning to write a feature article for our newspaper's education section '함께하는 교육'. The subject of it is "Korean schools and students through foreign teachers' eyes". As one of the foreign teachers in Korea, please write about honestly what you have been felt while teaching and living in Korea. We're going to write an article about the cultural diversity and tolerance based on your statement. The article will be published on our newspaper on 30th Nov.
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detourne_me



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, I think they gave me a name in the article!
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manuel_the_Bandito wrote:
The part about Korean teachers teaching writing is simply farcical. Most couldn't pass a real undergraduate class on English writing, much less teach the subject.


Friend, have you seen some of the writing on this forum or even in material written by native English teachers and published by the various MOEs?

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And then there's the old matter of "qualifications", something no one can accurately identify. The vast majority of KETs are obviously unqualified to teach speaking and writing and when it comes to NETs all but a handful of kyopos and westerners with exceptional fluency are unqualified to perform all the duties and paperwork of a regular teacher. Qualified should be replaced with "able" to give a better perspective on what can and should be done.


I agree completely with you on this! Part of the reason all (almost all?) of us don't have teaching credentials for Korea is because we're not Korean and the system is set up to keep us from getting them. Another reason is that not all of us wanted to teach English in our home countries and thus it would be expensive and time-consuming for us to get a temporary qualification that we'd never use.
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Old Gil



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a neat trick: sit a Korean down and have them define what the word "qualified" or "trained" entails. Hilarity will ensue!

The two most popular answers: "doesn't do drugs" and "isn't pervert".
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hagwonnewbie



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Gil wrote:
Here's a neat trick: sit a Korean down and have them define what the word "qualified" or "trained" entails. Hilarity will ensue!

The two most popular answers: "doesn't do drugs" and "isn't pervert".



Maybe the only Koreans you know are academy owners.
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hagwonnewbie wrote:
Old Gil wrote:
Here's a neat trick: sit a Korean down and have them define what the word "qualified" or "trained" entails. Hilarity will ensue!

The two most popular answers: "doesn't do drugs" and "isn't pervert".



Maybe the only Koreans you know are academy owners.


Nope nice try though. Run of the mill salary men and women, mothers, students, etc. Those are by far the top two answers I've gotten.
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