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maryjanes



Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Cheongju

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: Using a monkey as a prop Reply with quote

I have a puppet monkey that I use as a prop for teaching (middle school, lower level classes). He/she/it has been useful for work around prepositions of place (the monkey is on/under/near/behind etc the desk) and I've tended to use it has a last 10 minutes 'fun-time' thing where the children can talk about or to the monkey, in order to encourage conversation. I've seen some really wonderful effects - children explaining Korean culture to the monkey because he's from Africa and might not understand the differences etc. etc.

One student has studied in the UK and the US (complex family life, I suppose) and uses every opportunity to shout, 'I'm spanking the money!'. I've looked up this phrase and have realised it's not appropriate, but since the rest of the class find this funny in an innocent way, what am I supposed to do?

Should I explain the meaning, tell the kid to quit, take the much-loved beast and tool for English conversation away forever?

Any thoughts appreciated.
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ChrisGuy



Joined: 19 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like its not doing any real harm. The monkey is making teaching fun for everyone, which probably means that they are learning more, as they are enjoying the class. If it were me, i think id keep the class fun, let the boy have a laugh... and id probably laugh at him too Smile (tho, i guess it does depend on how oftern he is doing it per lesson!)
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maryjanes



Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Cheongju

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, when the monkey comes out it's game on for the l'il man to start shouting. I think he must have told his close friends about the meaning because 3 or 4 boys snigger in a way that's not relevent to what's going on.

The girls love the monkey thing, thay're always first up to tell him/her/it stories and that's really encouraging because in a non-urbanised Korea setting girls have a really hard time of it and aren't particularly encouraged to try with their English.
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Savant



Joined: 25 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serious response: Just keep going with the class. No harm, no foul. Unless the kid becomes obsessed with making those comments and it disrupts the class. Then, speak to one of the Korean teachers who can/may inform his parents of his inappropriate behaviour.

Funny response: When I first read the heading I somehow thought it was going to be about Korean co-teachers' use of NETs in Public Schools.
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maryjanes



Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Cheongju

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol with Savant - maybe I need to change the heading!
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just change to a different stuffed animal toy - preferably not a doggy.
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bixlerscott



Joined: 27 Sep 2006
Location: Near Wonju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG, they find the monkey business funny. You could get that, "Do the Monkey," karaoke video from icnelly on Youtube and have that monkey puppet move it's mouth like it's singing with them. The lil' ones find monkeys so hilarious. Spanking the monkey is an American idiom for masturbation which is inappropriate to be said at school. I'd probably bust out laughing. LOL

Monkey says...


Do anything except spank your monkey. Just do the monkey.


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ChilgokBlackHole



Joined: 21 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Using a monkey as a prop Reply with quote

maryjanes wrote:
One student has studied in the UK and the US (complex family life, I suppose) and uses every opportunity to shout, 'I'm spanking the money!'. I've looked up this phrase and have realised it's not appropriate, but since the rest of the class find this funny in an innocent way, what am I supposed to do?

Carry on, soldier. Don't do anything to encourage or discourage the behavior. Kids are going to say inappropriate things.
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Murakano



Joined: 10 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Using a monkey as a prop Reply with quote

maryjanes wrote:


One student has studied in the UK and the US (complex family life, I suppose) and uses every opportunity to shout, 'I'm spanking the money!'. I've looked up this phrase and have realised it's not appropriate,.


Laughing

Does he know the literal real meaning for that? Or just how it `sounds`?
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work at all boys middle school and the students make open comments all the time about porn and all sorts of other things. They do it openly in Korean with their Korean teachers as well, who laugh and tell me about it later.

It was really shocking to me at first, just because you'd never see an American student making jokes about porn to his teacher, at least not without serious repercussions, but apparently they just don't get bent out of shape about it here. So I don't get bent out of shape about it either. I usually just make some joke about how I don't need to know about that and then move on. It's only funny to do something that gets no reaction for so long.....
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Using a monkey as a prop Reply with quote

Murakano wrote:
maryjanes wrote:


One student has studied in the UK and the US (complex family life, I suppose) and uses every opportunity to shout, 'I'm spanking the money!'. I've looked up this phrase and have realised it's not appropriate,.


Laughing

Does he know the literal real meaning for that? Or just how it `sounds`?


The literal meaning? You mean like getting a monkey and hitting it? Yes, he probably does know the literal meaning if he knows the verb 'spank' and the noun 'monkey'..
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Goon-Yang



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Duh

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no Picasso wrote:
I work at all boys middle school and the students make open comments all the time about porn and all sorts of other things. They do it openly in Korean with their Korean teachers as well, who laugh and tell me about it later.

It was really shocking to me at first, just because you'd never see an American student making jokes about porn to his teacher, at least not without serious repercussions, but apparently they just don't get bent out of shape about it here. So I don't get bent out of shape about it either. I usually just make some joke about how I don't need to know about that and then move on. It's only funny to do something that gets no reaction for so long.....


lol...let me tell you about my "pervert class". I worked at a high school a few years ago. They had their jeju trip and I asked them how it was. Most classes gave the same answers except class 10. Who had to tell me, in detail, how they got a *beep* to bring them some beer and they watched and had fun.

Do you know how messed up you have to be for me to nickname you pervert...in my pervert class.

This aint Kansas Toto:)


This was back in the day when that Dance Dance Revolution game was popular. They'd ask me if I liked DDR? Which is slang for Dal dal ri...masturbation. I got a laugh out of that. Nah I'm not that good at DDR. I've only done it a couple of times, with two Russian girls. I knew something was up when the whole class broke out in tears laughing their asses off.
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ChilgokBlackHole



Joined: 21 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no Picasso wrote:
It was really shocking to me at first, just because you'd never see an American student making jokes about porn to his teacher, at least not without serious repercussions, but apparently they just don't get bent out of shape about it here.

Haha, what? Since when? Where's this Paradise you used to teach in? I gotta put in a resume!
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChilgokBlackHole wrote:
I'm no Picasso wrote:
It was really shocking to me at first, just because you'd never see an American student making jokes about porn to his teacher, at least not without serious repercussions, but apparently they just don't get bent out of shape about it here.

Haha, what? Since when? Where's this Paradise you used to teach in? I gotta put in a resume!


I didn't teach kids back in the States -- only adults. However, it's not been that long since I was in high school and I don't remember ever one time, even out of the worst kids, hearing anyone openly make a sexual comment directly to a teacher. And the sexual comments that were made to other students and overheard by the teacher were certainly not laughed off like my co-teachers do here.
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seonsengnimble



Joined: 02 Jun 2009
Location: taking a ride on the magic English bus

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no Picasso wrote:

I didn't teach kids back in the States -- only adults. However, it's not been that long since I was in high school and I don't remember ever one time, even out of the worst kids, hearing anyone openly make a sexual comment directly to a teacher. And the sexual comments that were made to other students and overheard by the teacher were certainly not laughed off like my co-teachers do here.


I think it depends on your teacher much more than the school. In my 11th grade vocabulary class, one of the prefixes we were covering was auto. The teacher asked for any words we could think of that had auto in them. I proudly answered auto-erotic asphyxiation. He just rolled his eyes, and when another student asked what the word meant, I had to explain it.
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