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Trapped into military service/Elite in Seoul

 
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waitingformyruca



Joined: 04 Mar 2004
Location: US

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:33 pm    Post subject: Trapped into military service/Elite in Seoul Reply with quote

Howdy everyone. Just graduated school. Thinking about teaching in Korea. Two questions.

1. Should I really be worried about this or did this guy just get jerked?

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200312/kt2003120717224111950.htm

Basically he's an ethnic korean born in the US who by virtue of the fact that his parents were both korean citizens at the time of his birth had dual citizenship but never realized it. When he went to korea to each english he got sucked into military service. I'm also Korean but was born in the U.S. What's the deal?????

2. My aunt's friend works at Elite in Seoul. She claims it is one of the oldest and most well known of the hagwons. True? False? Would you want to work with these people???

Gracias.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure about the first situation- I think you can choose to renounce your Korean citizenship and avoid the military, if that happens.

On the second one, I don't know if Elite is one of the biggest or most well known hagwons. It doesn't matter because those things don't always mean the school is good. I got screwed by the headquarters of a well known chain fairly recently. Talk to the people teaching there now, and see what they have to say. If they are happy with their work environment then that's a good indication.
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tsgarp



Joined: 01 Dec 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Trapped into military service/Elite in Seoul Reply with quote

waitingformyruca wrote:
Howdy everyone. Just graduated school. Thinking about teaching in Korea. Two questions.

1. Should I really be worried about this or did this guy just get jerked?

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200312/kt2003120717224111950.htm

Basically he's an ethnic korean born in the US who by virtue of the fact that his parents were both korean citizens at the time of his birth had dual citizenship but never realized it. When he went to korea to each english he got sucked into military service. I'm also Korean but was born in the U.S. What's the deal?????

2. My aunt's friend works at Elite in Seoul. She claims it is one of the oldest and most well known of the hagwons. True? False? Would you want to work with these people???

Gracias.
If you are a US citizen ONLY, you will have no problems.
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:52 am    Post subject: Re: Trapped into military service/Elite in Seoul Reply with quote

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If you are a US citizen ONLY, you will have no problems.


I think the OP's concern is that he may be a dual citizen without realizing it. I have heard these stories before about Korean-Americans coming to Korea without realizing they were citizens. I've heard that it happens when your family puts your name on the official family registry in Korea, which I believe makes you a citizen regardless of whether or not you were actually born in Korea. If you want to renounce it, I believe it must be done by a certain age, which you probably would have passed if you're done with college. If you're really worried about it, you might want to get ahold of some officials in Korea to find out if you're a citizen. I wouldn't know exactly how, though.
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IconsFanatic



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to opt out of your Korean citizenship before you're 18, otherwise you've got it for life.

Usually they won't catch you.... it depends on what you do. If you apply to teach English on an E-2 visa as an American, they're not likely to catch you. Korean bureaucracy isn't exactly what I'd call efficient.

The trap is when you try to get the gyopo visa (F-4?). Since you have to be an "ethnic Korean" to get it, you need to fill out the "military exemption" form, which basically says you're Korean, but not a Korean citizen, and thus are exempt from service. Turns out the government will check if you are indeed a citizen or not when you fill this form out, and that's one way people get caught.

Stick with the E-2 visa, and only use your "home" passport.

Best bet would be to find out if you have Korean citizenship or not.
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waitingformyruca



Joined: 04 Mar 2004
Location: US

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:16 am    Post subject: thanks Reply with quote

k. that is somewhat comforting. i think if i actually got suckered into the army i'd escape any way i could. i'd take a boat to china or japan and fly out from there if i had to.
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humanuspneumos



Joined: 08 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:07 am    Post subject: I worked with a guy in Jeju Reply with quote

I worked with a guy in Jeju in 97 and that happened to him. He was just married- about to leave the country(vacation)- and at the gates they nabbed him. They told him that he had to serve. The situation really sucked because he had just gotten married- was very Americanized- and it was the last thing on the planet he wanted to do. The only positive was that he loved playing cards. He never did get out of it. He had dual citizenship.

B-careful and do your homework. I saw a younger fellow in the Korean Consulate in Vancouver (had been adopted but for some reason had a Korean passport) trying to turn in his passport and renounce his citizenship. Whether or not he was under 18 I know not.
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