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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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 Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: GEPIK vacation |
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I was my understanding that GEPIK gives you 20 days of vacation (working).
Knowing this, I took only five days (aka one week) of vacation in the summer.
I wanted to save the rest for winter. Now that winter is coming up, it seems like my co-teacher is trying to screw me over. I know there are going to be camps so that's not an issue.
The issue is her telling me that these 15 days somehow equal 2 weeks instead of 3....meaning she is counting the weekends in this vacation time. I'm trying to tell her that no, the 15 days means working days off, so it is 3 weeks. Why the hell would they be counted for weekends when I get the weekends off anyways!!??
I am correct right because I don't want to make an ass of myself. |
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tigershark
Joined: 13 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: yes |
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| That is correct. |
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jmuns
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
Location: earth
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| you are correct, 20 working days not including holidays and weekends. you have three weeks left, but you should tell them which three asap and have them schedule camps accordingly |
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JJJ
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Of course you are correct. They just want you to do a 4 or 5 week camp instead of the now standard 3 week camp. My school is trying to pull a fast on me as well. Stay strong, talk to your co-workers and as a last resort, go to the head office. Good luck. |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks...just making sure i wasn't going crazy here...I'll be back with an update. |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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ok so I just talked to her and it seems like she was confused. I haven't had any other problems with the school so I was ready for my first real "conflict" lol.
Anyways, I'll have one week of "special classes" at the beginning of January, then for the rest of January, I get my three weeks. Bali here I come!!
The rest of the vacation, of course, it looks like I will have to desk warm (though I may try some negotiating on that hehe) |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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My goodness. So my coteacher just called me and said that the principal "strongly suggests" that I push back 5 of my vacation days until late February so I can teach one more week of camp in January.
Now 2 weeks isn't bad, but it seems like they are so damn stingy with vacation days
Why give me vacation days in the contract, if all you're gonna do is cry about when I'm going to take them? |
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lowpo
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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My goodness. So my coteacher just called me and said that the principal "strongly suggests" that I push back 5 of my vacation days until late February so I can teach one more week of camp in January.
Now 2 weeks isn't bad, but it seems like they are so damn stingy with vacation days
Why give me vacation days in the contract, if all you're gonna do is cry about when I'm going to take them? |
It is up to you, but don't let them. |
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Cerberus
Joined: 29 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| 3DR wrote: |
My goodness. So my coteacher just called me and said that the principal "strongly suggests" that I push back 5 of my vacation days until late February so I can teach one more week of camp in January.
Now 2 weeks isn't bad, but it seems like they are so damn stingy with vacation days
Why give me vacation days in the contract, if all you're gonna do is cry about when I'm going to take them? |
how many weeks of camp did you work in the summer?
if 3 or more, meaning you could only take one week of vacation at that time, then you are being royally screwed.
If I were you, I wouldn't allow myself to get screwed out of my contract vacation days under any circumstances.
they have to give you your contractual vacation, it's not a gift bestowed at their whim.
if they want you to work that extra week of camp in January, they'll have to find a different week for you take off. Do not bend on this. Not an inch. Be polite but very firm.
if it's an issue, then "strongly suggest" to all parties that they read the contract you and they both signed.
Of course, if they merely want you to posptone your vacation until late February, they are within their rights.
btw I get the sense you are of the female gender which makes you a prime target for Korean pressure to do things above and beyond what you agreed on.
It's a secondary reason for why they all want and prefer young female teachers even if you're not eye candy. They find young females far easier to push around.
do not let it happen it you. |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| 3DR wrote: |
My goodness. So my coteacher just called me and said that the principal "strongly suggests" that I push back 5 of my vacation days until late February so I can teach one more week of camp in January.
Now 2 weeks isn't bad, but it seems like they are so damn stingy with vacation days
Why give me vacation days in the contract, if all you're gonna do is cry about when I'm going to take them? |
how many weeks of camp did you work in the summer?
if 3 or more, meaning you could only take one week of vacation at that time, then you are being royally screwed.
If I were you, I wouldn't allow myself to get screwed out of my contract vacation days under any circumstances.
they have to give you your contractual vacation, it's not a gift bestowed at their whim.
if they want you to work that extra week of camp in January, they'll have to find a different week for you take off. Do not bend on this. Not an inch. Be polite but very firm.
if it's an issue, then "strongly suggest" to all parties that they read the contract you and they both signed.
Of course, if they merely want you to posptone your vacation until late February, they are within their rights.
btw I get the sense you are of the female gender which makes you a prime target for Korean pressure to do things above and beyond what you agreed on.
It's a secondary reason for why they all want and prefer young female teachers even if you're not eye candy. They find young females far easier to push around.
do not let it happen it you. |
No I'm male...do I sound like a female? damn 
But anyways, during the summer I taught three weeks and took only one week purposefully so I could have three weeks off in the winter.
But you said if they want me to postpone one week of my vacation, then I have to? I know that we are supposed to teach camps, but let's say somebody wanted to take the whole 4 weeks of vacation during the whole time the school wanted camps? |
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Cerberus
Joined: 29 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| 3DR wrote: |
| Cerberus wrote: |
| 3DR wrote: |
My goodness. So my coteacher just called me and said that the principal "strongly suggests" that I push back 5 of my vacation days until late February so I can teach one more week of camp in January.
Now 2 weeks isn't bad, but it seems like they are so damn stingy with vacation days
Why give me vacation days in the contract, if all you're gonna do is cry about when I'm going to take them? |
how many weeks of camp did you work in the summer?
if 3 or more, meaning you could only take one week of vacation at that time, then you are being royally screwed.
If I were you, I wouldn't allow myself to get screwed out of my contract vacation days under any circumstances.
they have to give you your contractual vacation, it's not a gift bestowed at their whim.
if they want you to work that extra week of camp in January, they'll have to find a different week for you take off. Do not bend on this. Not an inch. Be polite but very firm.
if it's an issue, then "strongly suggest" to all parties that they read the contract you and they both signed.
Of course, if they merely want you to posptone your vacation until late February, they are within their rights.
btw I get the sense you are of the female gender which makes you a prime target for Korean pressure to do things above and beyond what you agreed on.
It's a secondary reason for why they all want and prefer young female teachers even if you're not eye candy. They find young females far easier to push around.
do not let it happen it you. |
No I'm male...do I sound like a female? damn
But anyways, during the summer I taught three weeks and took only one week purposefully so I could have three weeks off in the winter.
But you said if they want me to postpone one week of my vacation, then I have to? I know that we are supposed to teach camps, but let's say somebody wanted to take the whole 4 weeks of vacation during the whole time the school wanted camps? |
yes, sorry, I definitely had you pegged as a female.
The use of "my goodness" probably sealed it for me.
re your last question, sorry, you cannot schedule your entire vacation (or even three weeks' worth) during the winter or summer if your school schedules (and alerts you to this fact) several weeks worth of camps during that time frame. The school does have certain rights in this regard and you should schedule your vacation time around their schedule.
If I were you, I'd try to push back the entire three week slot to fit into the late February period, or at the very least 2 weeks worth. |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Cerberus wrote: |
| 3DR wrote: |
| Cerberus wrote: |
| 3DR wrote: |
My goodness. So my coteacher just called me and said that the principal "strongly suggests" that I push back 5 of my vacation days until late February so I can teach one more week of camp in January.
Now 2 weeks isn't bad, but it seems like they are so damn stingy with vacation days
Why give me vacation days in the contract, if all you're gonna do is cry about when I'm going to take them? |
how many weeks of camp did you work in the summer?
if 3 or more, meaning you could only take one week of vacation at that time, then you are being royally screwed.
If I were you, I wouldn't allow myself to get screwed out of my contract vacation days under any circumstances.
they have to give you your contractual vacation, it's not a gift bestowed at their whim.
if they want you to work that extra week of camp in January, they'll have to find a different week for you take off. Do not bend on this. Not an inch. Be polite but very firm.
if it's an issue, then "strongly suggest" to all parties that they read the contract you and they both signed.
Of course, if they merely want you to posptone your vacation until late February, they are within their rights.
btw I get the sense you are of the female gender which makes you a prime target for Korean pressure to do things above and beyond what you agreed on.
It's a secondary reason for why they all want and prefer young female teachers even if you're not eye candy. They find young females far easier to push around.
do not let it happen it you. |
No I'm male...do I sound like a female? damn
But anyways, during the summer I taught three weeks and took only one week purposefully so I could have three weeks off in the winter.
But you said if they want me to postpone one week of my vacation, then I have to? I know that we are supposed to teach camps, but let's say somebody wanted to take the whole 4 weeks of vacation during the whole time the school wanted camps? |
yes, sorry, I definitely had you pegged as a female.
The use of "my goodness" probably sealed it for me.
re your last question, sorry, you cannot schedule your entire vacation (or even three weeks' worth) during the winter or summer if your school schedules (and alerts you to this fact) several weeks worth of camps during that time frame. The school does have certain rights in this regard and you should schedule your vacation time around their schedule.
If I were you, I'd try to push back the entire three week slot to fit into the late February period, or at the very least 2 weeks worth. |
Ok thanks for the help. I think I'm going to take two weeks in the middle of January and teach camps the first week and last week of January. That leaves one week that I can take in February where I don't have to seat warm.
So yeah I was just confused on whether or not my vacay time > their winter camp time....I should've known that wasn't the case |
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Cerberus
Joined: 29 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| 3DR wrote: |
| Cerberus wrote: |
| 3DR wrote: |
| Cerberus wrote: |
| 3DR wrote: |
My goodness. So my coteacher just called me and said that the principal "strongly suggests" that I push back 5 of my vacation days until late February so I can teach one more week of camp in January.
Now 2 weeks isn't bad, but it seems like they are so damn stingy with vacation days
Why give me vacation days in the contract, if all you're gonna do is cry about when I'm going to take them? |
how many weeks of camp did you work in the summer?
if 3 or more, meaning you could only take one week of vacation at that time, then you are being royally screwed.
If I were you, I wouldn't allow myself to get screwed out of my contract vacation days under any circumstances.
they have to give you your contractual vacation, it's not a gift bestowed at their whim.
if they want you to work that extra week of camp in January, they'll have to find a different week for you take off. Do not bend on this. Not an inch. Be polite but very firm.
if it's an issue, then "strongly suggest" to all parties that they read the contract you and they both signed.
Of course, if they merely want you to posptone your vacation until late February, they are within their rights.
btw I get the sense you are of the female gender which makes you a prime target for Korean pressure to do things above and beyond what you agreed on.
It's a secondary reason for why they all want and prefer young female teachers even if you're not eye candy. They find young females far easier to push around.
do not let it happen it you. |
No I'm male...do I sound like a female? damn
But anyways, during the summer I taught three weeks and took only one week purposefully so I could have three weeks off in the winter.
But you said if they want me to postpone one week of my vacation, then I have to? I know that we are supposed to teach camps, but let's say somebody wanted to take the whole 4 weeks of vacation during the whole time the school wanted camps? |
yes, sorry, I definitely had you pegged as a female.
The use of "my goodness" probably sealed it for me.
re your last question, sorry, you cannot schedule your entire vacation (or even three weeks' worth) during the winter or summer if your school schedules (and alerts you to this fact) several weeks worth of camps during that time frame. The school does have certain rights in this regard and you should schedule your vacation time around their schedule.
If I were you, I'd try to push back the entire three week slot to fit into the late February period, or at the very least 2 weeks worth. |
Ok thanks for the help. I think I'm going to take two weeks in the middle of January and teach camps the first week and last week of January. That leaves one week that I can take in February where I don't have to seat warm.
So yeah I was just confused on whether or not my vacay time > their winter camp time....I should've known that wasn't the case |
their time is always more important than your time.
in fairness, the same can be said of almost any work situation anywhere not just the Korean ps system. |
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thecount
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| Never give up, never surrender. |
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