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lhasa
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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A good job handling objections, with a nice re-election political spin (of course, he has been u.s. prez for only less than a year):
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And yet I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge the considerable controversy that your generous decision has generated. In part, this is because I am at the beginning, and not the end, of my labors on the world stage. Compared to some of the giants of history who have received this prize - Schweitzer and King; Marshall and Mandela - my accomplishments are slight. And then there are the men and women around the world who have been jailed and beaten in the pursuit of justice; those who toil in humanitarian organizations to relieve suffering; the unrecognized millions whose quiet acts of courage and compassion inspire even the most hardened of cynics. I cannot argue with those who find these men and women - some known, some obscure to all but those they help - to be far more deserving of this honor than I.
But perhaps the most profound issue surrounding my receipt of this prize is the fact that I am the Commander-in-Chief of a nation in the midst of two wars. One of these wars is winding down. The other is a conflict that America did not seek; one in which we are joined by forty three other countries - including Norway - in an effort to defend ourselves and all nations from further attacks.
Still, we are at war, and I am responsible for the deployment of thousands of young Americans to battle in a distant land. Some will kill. Some will be killed. And so I come here with an acute sense of the cost of armed conflict - filled with difficult questions about the relationship between war and peace, and our effort to replace one with the other. |
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I know there is nothing weak -nothing passive - nothing na�ve - in the creed and lives of Gandhi and King.
But as a head of state sworn to protect and defend my nation, I cannot be guided by their examples alone. I face the world as it is, and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the American people. For make no mistake: evil does exist in the world. A non-violent movement could not have halted Hitler's armies. Negotiations cannot convince al Qaeda's leaders to lay down their arms. To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism - it is a recognition of history; the imperfections of man and the limits of reason. |
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donducky
Joined: 02 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:39 pm Post subject: Wrong man for the prize |
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I'd have given the prize to Charles Manson, or possibly O.J. Simpson.
These fine men actually stopped killing people. Obama is just getting started! |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism - it is a recognition of history; the imperfections of man and the limits of reason. |
True. |
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thecount
Joined: 10 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism - it is a recognition of history; the imperfections of man and the limits of reason. |
True. |
Obama left Poland and the Czech Republic out to dry because he didn't have the peaches to stand up to Putin.
Of the five (5!!!) deadlines he issued to Iran, Iran has ignored the first four in succession, and is going for a fifth. This is AFTER we found their secret nuclear enrichment facility near Qom.
He can't even fight in a political capacity; he took a VERY backseat role in crafting policy and handed out the Health Care reform package entirely to Pelosi and Reid.
The only battle he seems willing to engage in is name-calling with Fox news and attacking our previous President's policies.
President Obama's problem is that now he has to live up to that ridiculous narrative his knuckle-dragging supporters campaigned on. It must have been jarring for him to enter office only to find out that the President cannot vote "present" when it matters. |
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Chris_Dixon
Joined: 09 Jan 2008
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This is AFTER we found their secret nuclear enrichment facility near Qom.
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like those WMD's in Iraq? |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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Hoiw could a war with Iran possibly be in the best interests of world peace?
Imagine an Iran with nukes -- yep, that's pretty much the world we already live in, why make it worse? |
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lhasa
Joined: 26 Jan 2008
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Hoiw could a war with Iran possibly be in the best interests of world peace?
Imagine an Iran with nukes -- yep, that's pretty much the world we already live in, why make it worse? |
Iran has stated that the answer to the M/E crisis is to destroy Israel. "The main solution is for the elimination of the Zionist regime..." (Ahmadinejad).
If Iran acted on that threat then there would be a massive problem. So, I assume some people would argue that it would be best to destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities before they get a chance to use them. Yes, this would start a war but it would avert nukes going off....at least for now. |
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youtuber
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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Obama's full of shitt. There is no way that the US will leave Afghan anytime soon with the deployment of 30,000 more troops.
I can understand the logic behind giving him the prize - to encourage peace. But the US has its grubby little hands in too many parts of the world - thus wishing for the US to be more peaceful is hopeless. There is way too much self-interest and greed in the US to have it any other way. |
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