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[fiveeagles]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QKNhgdno10

Now, that you know what's in it, would you still take it?

[kotakji]

No problems here. Many (all) chemicals are harmful at certain dosages, that doesn't mean the trade off is bad.

[ropebreezy]

Thiomersal is a safe ingredient. The WHO has deemed it safe to use in vaccines. Just because it contains mercury doesn't mean it's unsafe to the body. 5 micrograms is an exremely small amount (50^-6 grams), and mercury is only a part of thiomersal, so the actual amount of the mercury is even smaller.

Tween 80 is a routinely used chemical compound. It's used in ice cream for instance. The study linked on the youtube page connecting Tween 80 injection to a possibility in sterilizing rats proves nothing. First of all, the Tween 80 concentrations are way different from the vaccine. There's also the fact that we are not preganant rats.

Tocopherol is basically vitamin E. The study suggesting it causes low birth weight in pregnant women used alpha-tocopherol at 400 IU; this is not the compound nor the amount used in the vaccine.

Hey fiveeagles, did you know vaccines contain the actual virus itself? Yeah, that's right, H1N1 vaccine contains actual H1N1 particles! You better create a youtube video so that the public can be informed!

[Fox]

[gillod]

Rocket Fuel contains water. Will you still drink water?

[ED209]

[mises]

Vaccines are corporate welfare.


http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200911/brownlee-h1n1


A large dose of vitamin d will be more effective against the regular flu and likely swine flu. And all cancers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GM0CnO6-ds&feature=player_embedded

Also, the lipid hypothesis is nonsense. And so is global warming. Sometimes special interests ruin science.

[ropebreezy]

[mises]

[OneWayTraffic]

Well the smallpox vaccines certainly worked. And polio and measles aren't nearly the problems that they used to be. I'm sure I could find other examples.

But flu I'm not so sure. It's pretty harmless to most but the old and infirm. It kills hundreds of thousands every year, but most of those were practically at deaths door anyway. When a 95 year old dies of the flu, is it the flu that kills them, or old age?

Most of the really useful vaccines are basically mandated by the government. It's all these optional ones that I have doubts over.

[mises]

[OneWayTraffic]

Just a little note on Smallpox. It's worth remembering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox

Smallpox has been around for at least 10,000 years. In the 18th century it killed roughly 400,000 Europeans every year. It obviously killed many more Asians and Africans, and thousands to millions of Native Americans (along with other diseases.)

The death rate from this disease was approximately 50% for adults and 80% for children.

At 400,000 a year that's 40,000,000 deaths in the 18th century alone. Add in all the rest of the world outside Europe and all the other centuries before and after the 18th and you have more deaths than all the wars we've ever fought-combined. WWII caused an estimated 40,000,000 deaths.

Smallpox is estimated to have killed about half a billion people in the twentith century alone.

Smallpox was completely erradicated in the second half of the 20th century by a comprehensive vaccination campaign. The lives saved by this campaign must already number in the millions.


Anyone trying to criticise vaccinations as a whole rather than say, one particular vaccination in particular needs to come up with a hazard from vaccination at least as severe as the hazards prevented from vaccination. This is impossible. A vaccination would pretty much have to kill half the western world before it's as bad as what we've been living with for years. Most people have simply forgotten. We just don't know what it's like having kids knowing that there's a 50% chance that they'll die of some sickness or other.

[visitorq]

[ED209]

[ropebreezy]