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ayxcho



Joined: 09 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:02 am    Post subject: To Gyopos (Korean-Americans) looking for positions Reply with quote

Hey all,

So, I've been applying to a lot of different recruiters about teaching positions they have in Seoul, or areas close to Seoul (Gyeongi-do). Most haven't even contacted me back (its been more than a week), however, the recruiters that have contacted me back (about 7-Cool have all informed me that it is near impossible for a Gyopo (Korean-American) to get a job in Seoul because the hakwons/schools are looking for "Caucasians" only. I know how Korean people can be, and I guess it's not that surprising to me.

Anyways, I was wondering.. have any Gyopos RECENTLY (withing past year) been able to go through a recruiter and get a job in Seoul or near Seoul? Has your experience been similar to mine?

I am beginning to feel like I have to settle for other places far from Seoul, but friends teaching in Korea are telling me to be patient, and not to settle. Has times changed?

Any input/comments are welcome.
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jyoo24



Joined: 10 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I'm a gyopo and I was able to find a job in Daechi-dong at a hagwon in September 2009. I used OK Recruiting and my recruiter was Bonnie. I initially interviewed with a few of the well-known hagwons: Topia, Poly, etc. But they tried to shaft me on the benefits/ teaching hours/ pay. I'm glad I waited for the job I have now because I love it.

Just wait it out. Something will come up.
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T-dot



Joined: 16 May 2004
Location: bundang

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are female, attractive or from a top school then its much easier.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP,

whoever told you that is a liar. You had better call them back and say, "Every single Hagwon in Gangnam, Daechi, Yeoksam, Dogok, and Apgujeong hire exclusively Gyopos for many positions".

Lots of hagwons in Gangnam hire gyopos. Of course, you will need a valid 4 year degree. Being bilingual is an even bigger plus.
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prodiGy



Joined: 12 Dec 2009
Location: Yongsan-gu, Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: To Gyopos (Korean-Americans) looking for positions Reply with quote

ayxcho wrote:


Anyways, I was wondering.. have any Gyopos RECENTLY (withing past year) been able to go through a recruiter and get a job in Seoul or near Seoul? Has your experience been similar to mine?

I am beginning to feel like I have to settle for other places far from Seoul, but friends teaching in Korea are telling me to be patient, and not to settle. Has times changed?

Any input/comments are welcome.


Hi. I'm a gyopo and I started my job search December 2nd and had 2 offers by December 11th (both in Seoul). Just signed with one today.

I started to wonder the same thing about the gyopo hiring thing. Since they ask for photos and all. I wasn't getting many responses from the first color photo I sent so I started sending a black and white photo. I know it sounds stupid but I figured they might not be able to tell if I'm Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese or whatever Asian American. I did get calls back though. hehe.
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sketcha



Joined: 05 Sep 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try to contact the schools directly

our hagwon hired a gyopo 4 months ago ~ no big deal, the guy in charge of hiring couldnt care less of you're white or asian
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ayxcho



Joined: 09 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the responses all, i have some hope now haha... anyways Ill keep looking and be patient
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of four Gyopos from Ilsan's public schools. Gyopos CAN find good work. Some others work in hagwons. First time I met them at my first hagwon, the school tried to pull shady business and pay them at the same rate as local Korean teachers (they get paid half). Don't settle. Get a dozen recruiters and make them work Work WORK for you!
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ayxcho



Joined: 09 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jyoo24 wrote:
Yes, I'm a gyopo and I was able to find a job in Daechi-dong at a hagwon in September 2009. I used OK Recruiting and my recruiter was Bonnie. I initially interviewed with a few of the well-known hagwons: Topia, Poly, etc. But they tried to shaft me on the benefits/ teaching hours/ pay. I'm glad I waited for the job I have now because I love it.

Just wait it out. Something will come up.


Just curious, did you have any experience? What were your qualifications?

I've been noticing Gyopo positions in Seoul that say "EXPERIENCED ONLY" and salaries are up in the 3.0-4.0 milKRW so im assuming they want 1+ years experience at least.

I have a degree from top university, and TESOL Certificate (which I am finishing up now), and some tutoring. Since, I don't actually have classroom teaching experience does that change things?

Thanks for all the responses so far, appreciate it
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jyoo24



Joined: 10 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I had no prior experience.

By the way, I work for job #60 on this post.

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=40201
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
OP,

whoever told you that is a liar. You had better call them back and say, "Every single Hagwon in Gangnam, Daechi, Yeoksam, Dogok, and Apgujeong hire exclusively Gyopos for many positions".

Lots of hagwons in Gangnam hire gyopos. Of course, you will need a valid 4 year degree. Being bilingual is an even bigger plus.


For the hagwon route maybe. For public school whoever told the OP was spot on. I've gotten a lot from the teachers and administrators. Slowly bringing em around with the Korean work ethic. lol
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hoopslam



Joined: 19 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've actually just gone through my Seoul job search recently and I got a lot of responses from here. It probably helped that I am already in Korea though...My gyopo friend in San Francisco just got an offer to come over to Gangnam in January so whatever nonsense you may have heard about gyopos not being able to find jobs in Seoul is simply not true. In fact, it probably is easier to find jobs as a gyopo in many ways since you can most likely talk in Korean directly to the hiring manager or owner (as I did).

Gotta play the Korean work ethic card like winterfall's said lol
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KoreanAmbition



Joined: 03 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every job ad requests more experience and credentials than they are actually willing to hire for for.

That's just normal.
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Lemon84



Joined: 07 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hoopslam wrote:

Gotta play the Korean work ethic card like winterfall's said lol


Would you mind expanding on the above comment? Shocked Question I'm a New Zealand gyopo seeking a position in Seoul. I was planning to settle for gyeonggido province since i'm strictly speaking, a 1.5 generation immigrant and have New Zealand accent instead of American accent.. I would appreciate any help I could get.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Lemon, how much time have you spent in Korea or working with Koreans?
Korean and Western work culture can be painfully different.
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