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ahmacle
Joined: 08 May 2008
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 Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:00 am Post subject: Shocking video from Everland Theme Park |
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I have visited Everland before. I will never give my money to that place again! Here is a video of an animal "trainer" traumatizing a baby bear. Everland must be reprimanded for this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9WXCCzsmTs
Anyone who would willingly give their money to the park should think again! |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Koreans shouldn't be allowed to keep any animals until they learn how to look after them. I'm always amazed at the slack-jawed morons at the zoo who think it's fair game to feed candy and chocolates to the monkeys, while nobody but me thinks this is not on.
Developed country? LOL |
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Passions
Joined: 31 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:16 am Post subject: |
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404 Animal Cruelty not found.
Ding ding. Over-reacting American cultural imperialist found. |
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Bloopity Bloop
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| Is that supposed to be an entertainment show? |
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halfmanhalfbiscuit
Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| Korean zoos are depressing affairs. |
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simIAN
Joined: 02 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| That is really sad. Sad and ignorant. Shameful! |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:37 am Post subject: |
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those beautiful big kitties just wanted to play, too young to have the killer instinct yet, but man is that bear cub terrified, terrorized by the staff in the name of t.v. fun  hear that background laughtrack?
(a scene in clear need of a momma bear bustin' through the walls and opening a can of whoopass on the zookeeper)
i have PLENTY of times been surprised at the lack of empathy displayed in this country toward the plight of animals, how indifference, condescension and/or humour could be found in the suffering of animals AS A CULTURALLY ACCEPTABLE AND LARGELY UNCRITICIZED ACT
Korea is like back home was a half century ago when it comes to animal rights |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:41 am Post subject: |
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ahmacle, you're right
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ahmacle
Joined: 08 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:42 am Post subject: |
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don't feed the trolls |
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:03 am Post subject: |
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The zookeeper says "I thought they'd get along well but it looks like the bear cub needs more training".
That guy's voiceover, the little bear voice he made and the laughter in the background was pretty nauseating. |
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sharkey
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| thats disgusting.. that poor bear... i had to turn that off. put that woman in a bear pit... idiot koreans |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| Passions wrote: |
404 Animal Cruelty not found.
Ding ding. Over-reacting American cultural imperialist found. |
How do you know he's American?
From your comment and your avatar, we could easily judge you in another way. |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:45 am Post subject: |
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Quite a bit more discussion on this post from last week.
I generally like watching "Animal Farm," and there are often people or families who truly love their pets. But, the show can get ridiculous, too. A common theme on that show is putting different species together to see what they do. Animals do exist for other purposes than simply being given funny voices, after all. It's depressing how animals get treated here.
But, to be fair, there are morons back home. It's easy to read stories about people who own massive snakes, or monkeys, or even big cats like tigers. I used to work at a zoo, and where in Korea people throw food at the animals, back home they'd just sit there and shout at them, then grumble that the animals "aren't doing anything."
One commenter made a good point:
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| I couldn't watch the whole video. However, zoos are often tragic all over the world (german zoos acquiring gorillas from the wild, for instance, or american zoos which give elephants so little space that the develop psychological issues). Also, consider circuses, of which main attractions are mistreated lions and elephants. I'm not saying this isn't horrible, or that the korean culture doesn't facilitate the mistreatment of animals. I just think it's incredible how many expats, who never think of animal rights issues back home, suddenly become enraged when they see mistreated animals abroad. |
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: |
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| Smee wrote: |
Quite a bit more discussion on this post from last week.
I generally like watching "Animal Farm," and there are often people or families who truly love their pets. But, the show can get ridiculous, too. A common theme on that show is putting different species together to see what they do. Animals do exist for other purposes than simply being given funny voices, after all. It's depressing how animals get treated here.
But, to be fair, there are morons back home. It's easy to read stories about people who own massive snakes, or monkeys, or even big cats like tigers. I used to work at a zoo, and where in Korea people throw food at the animals, back home they'd just sit there and shout at them, then grumble that the animals "aren't doing anything."
One commenter made a good point:
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| I couldn't watch the whole video. However, zoos are often tragic all over the world (german zoos acquiring gorillas from the wild, for instance, or american zoos which give elephants so little space that the develop psychological issues). Also, consider circuses, of which main attractions are mistreated lions and elephants. I'm not saying this isn't horrible, or that the korean culture doesn't facilitate the mistreatment of animals. I just think it's incredible how many expats, who never think of animal rights issues back home, suddenly become enraged when they see mistreated animals abroad. |
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Brian, thanks for the link.
I did notice a couple of comments there pointing out that this exposure to the lion cubs was part of the bear cub's training, as he was an orphan who needed to be familiarized with other animals.
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This episode wasn't about scarying the crap out Gomgil (the bear cub), and getting a laugh out of it. Gomgil didn't have mother bear's traing and the zoo keeper was trying to train Gomgil how to react in the presence of other animals. Gomgil wasn't put into a den of adult lions. The lion cubs were only 1 month older than Gomgil. And the zoo keeper was present throughout to control the encounter. There is another episode where the zoo keepers teach Gomgil how to swim.
I guess there could be a debate on whether or not the approach was/can be effective. But this certainly wasn't to torture the baby bear and I'm pretty sure the zoo keepers know what they're doing. After all, aren't they the professionals in that field? |
I still think it's a bit of a dodgy approach though (after all, does the bear really need to be exposed to lions if the zoo management is planning to keep them separated anyway?), and I still found the voiceover, the audience's laughter and the whole approach to it quite unsettling. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:22 am Post subject: |
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| I just think it's incredible how many expats, who never think of animal rights issues back home, suddenly become enraged when they see mistreated animals abroad. |
utter garbage! 
getting dogs to fight each other landed a rich athlete in jail and ended his career; killing a dog got one soldier demoted and another discharged; scaring a cat to death put one guy in the hospital when his neighbours took a baseball bat to him; all this from a country that gives a *beep* about animals
we do care about animal rights back home: in my hometown of Kamloops, Canada a man was sentenced to six years in jail for dragging a dog behind his truck for several blocks; the anger of the community toward the act was palpable, and I'm sure the guy won't choose to live in that town any more when he gets out
as i've said elsewhere on dave's: the public's willingness to watch and/or not object to the abuse of animals and women in public in korea is one of the hardest things for me, and i cannot just stand by and be a thoroughgoing relativist and say or do nothing, shouting at such times, aware that there is some love in this country toward animals and that the treatment of animals in general will get better, that social progress will happen, that regardless, i cannot stand idly by
everyone has to decide for themselves where to draw the line |
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