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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:19 am Post subject: Gaza: Israel's Organ Farm |
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Thought you couldn't get any more cynical about Israel? Try this.
The New "Blood Libel"?
Israeli Organ Harvesting
By ALISON WEIR
Counterpunch
August 28-30, 2009
Last week Sweden�s largest daily published an article containing shocking material: testimony and circumstantial evidence indicating Israelis may have been harvesting internal organs from Palestinian prisoners without consent for many years.
Worse yet, some information reported suggests in some instances Palestinians may have been captured with this macabre purpose in mind.
In �Our sons plundered for their organs,� Donald Bostrom writes that Palestinians �harbor strong suspicions against Israel for seizing young men and having them serve as the country�s organ reserve � a very serious accusation, which motivated the International Court of Justice (ICJ) to start an investigation about possible war crimes.�
Israeli officials and apologists immediately went into high gear, calling both Bostrom and the newspaper�s editors �anti-Semitic.� The Israeli foreign minister termed it �a demonizing piece of blood libel.� An Israeli official called it �hate porn.�
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Substantiated evidence of public and private organ trafficking and theft, and allegations of worse, have been widely reported for many years. Given such context, the Swedish charges become far more plausible than might otherwise be the case and suggest that an investigation could well turn up significant information.
Below are a few examples of previous reports on this topic.
Israel�s first heart transplant
Israel�s very first, historic heart transplant used a heart removed from a living patient without consent or consulting his family.
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Israel�s chief pathologist removed from post for stealing body parts
For a number of years there were allegations that Israel�s leading pathologist was stealing body parts. In 2001 the Israeli national news service reported:
�� the parents of soldier Ze�ev Buzgallo who was killed in a Golan Heights military training accident, are filing a petition with the High Court of Justice calling for the immediate suspension of Dr. Yehuda Hiss and that criminal charges be filed against him.�.According to the parents, the body of their son was used for medical experimentation without their consent, experiments authorized by Hiss. (9)
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, rather than responding to calls for an investigation, is demanding that the Swedish government abandon its commitment to a free press and condemn the article. The Israeli press office, apparently in retaliation and to prevent additional investigation, is refusing to give press credentials to reporters from the offending newspaper.
Just as in the case of the rampage against Jenin, the attack on the USS liberty, the massacre of Gaza, the crushing of Rachel Corrie, the torture of American citizens, and a multitude of other examples, Israel is using its considerable, worldwide resources to interfere with the investigative process.
It is difficult to conclude that it has nothing to hide.
Read article in all its gory at link |
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Safron

Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Location: portland, or
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Finally the truth is coming to light on the Jews! On top of harvesting the organs of palestinians, it's been known for years (centuries in fact) that they use the blood of non jewish babies (that's right babies) as an ingredient in their religious bread known as matzoh around the passover holiday. |
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Safron, your comment is anti-Semitic and offensive.
Please delete it. |
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Safron

Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Location: portland, or
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:47 am Post subject: |
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It's also a well known fact that Jews have horns on their heads just like Michelangelo portrayed Moses! If you don't believe me, just ask any Palestinian or Iranian, or Syrian...
I'm glad someone is finally shining a light on those Jews and the nature of their ways!
Now that this has been cleared up, can someone start a discussion on global finance? |
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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Safron's tautology is remarkably common. It has been repeated in different forms thoughout this forum: You shouldn't believe it because you shouldn't believe it. That's because there are other things that you shouldn't believe and this is just like the things that you also shouldn't believe, so don't believe it.  |
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Trevor wrote: |
Safron's tautology is remarkably common. It has been repeated in different forms thoughout this forum: You shouldn't believe it because you shouldn't believe it. That's because there are other things that you shouldn't believe and this is just like the things that you also shouldn't believe, so don't believe it.  |
Also remarkably common is the ignorance or inability to distinguish Jews from Zionist Israelis. And even as much as I might philosophically differ with Zionists who support war, I am sure that even many of them would draw the line at organ harvesting. |
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Safron

Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Location: portland, or
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." - Adolf Hitler |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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This article is very misleading. First, there are only a few articles which point to the Israeli government actually stealing organs from Palestinians. The rest of the articles are about other aspects of organ trafficking. So what? Organ trafficking happens, yes, but it's not an Israeli only phenomenon. People from many countries buy organs all the time, so what? Yes, it's horrible. Yes, I hope that something is done about it, but this articles focus is mainly on INDIVIDUAL people, not a widespread government program. |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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I thought it said Israel's DRAGON farm. And I'm not ashamed to say that a thrill of pure excitement passed through me. Alas. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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You seem to be a bit slow on the uptake.
It was published in August and the Israeli Government has had a field day complaining about it.
Its also based on Palestinian accusations of bodies being returned to them with autopsy scars etc.
Your title is rather inflaming and accusatory. I would actually like to see the proof that the Government has a policy in place before i accepted that Israel is using Gaza as a organ plant.
Though, as has been noted before, say it loud enough and people will believe it. Most people don't read the details they just accept the main line so I also think that unless you have absolute proof this is occuring that you don't perpetuate rumor and slander as fact. |
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Fox

Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Koveras wrote: |
I thought it said Israel's DRAGON farm. And I'm not ashamed to say that a thrill of pure excitement passed through me. Alas. |
If the Israelis chose dragons as their modus operandi, I have to admit, I would support any military endeavor they would care to engage in. I may be anti-war, but I'm even more pro-dragon. |
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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Safron wrote: |
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." - Safron |
Fixed. |
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ytuque

Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Location: I drink therefore I am!
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Gaza: Israel's Organ Farm |
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bacasper wrote: |
Thought you couldn't get any more cynical about Israel? Try this.
The New "Blood Libel"?
Israeli Organ Harvesting
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The original news source in Sweden for this has already been discredited! How can you get so worked up over these phony news stories? |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Fox wrote: |
Koveras wrote: |
I thought it said Israel's DRAGON farm. And I'm not ashamed to say that a thrill of pure excitement passed through me. Alas. |
If the Israelis chose dragons as their modus operandi, I have to admit, I would support any military endeavor they would care to engage in. I may be anti-war, but I'm even more pro-dragon. |
Interesting. Where do you stand on griffons? |
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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Gaza: Israel's Organ Farm |
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Discredited? No it wasn't. It was denied, by Netanyahu -- a thug. Certainly not discredited.
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The original news source in Sweden for this has already been discredited! How can you get so worked up over these phony news stories?[/quote] |
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