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big_fella1



Joined: 08 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:15 am    Post subject: F2 and Credit Reply with quote

I would like to ask all F2's who are the primary breadwinner to stop taking the easy option of putting bills into your husbands or wifes name.

Koreans need to grow up and accept that people who were not born here, now live here and deal with us.

Why should a mortgage with 50 percent equity be limited to Koreans, why should a secured car loan be limited to Koreans, and why can't I get a mobile phone from SK (sorry not true, I was told as an F2 I can get a prepaid line only but I could put a plan in my wifes name).

This country claims they want to be a global financial centre, how do they think this will happen when foreigners are considered a problem that should be avoided.
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Jeonmunka



Joined: 05 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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why can't I get a mobile phone from SK (sorry not true, I was told as an F2 I can get a prepaid line only but I could put a plan in my wifes name).

You likely have been told incorrectly. I know that even E2's can get those plans and with no deposits (SK used to charge 200k.) Now SK and KTF are finally coming inline with LG.
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Alaskaman



Joined: 22 Sep 2009
Location: Bundang-Gu, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mate, I was an F2 now and F5 visa holder. Even when I was an F2 I was able to secure a phone, housing with all funds placed in my name. And this last summer a purchased a vehicle from Kia all in my name and not in my wifes. I think you are either being told incorrectly from the financial institutions or the better half. My wife used to say that it was not possible as I was not Korean. She really thought that it was not possible and did not really investigate the situation. Together we discovered that much is really possible. We have two children now and she is a stay at home mother. So, your income is the sole income. You are entiled to many government programs and to financial institutions based on the fact that you are married and the sole income provider. Let me know where you are having some concerns and I will help with some additional information.

PM me if you would like to have the information in private.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: F2 and Credit Reply with quote

big_fella1 wrote:
I would like to ask all F2's who are the primary breadwinner to stop taking the easy option of putting bills into your husbands or wifes name.

Koreans need to grow up and accept that people who were not born here, now live here and deal with us.

Why should a mortgage with 50 percent equity be limited to Koreans, why should a secured car loan be limited to Koreans, and why can't I get a mobile phone from SK (sorry not true, I was told as an F2 I can get a prepaid line only but I could put a plan in my wifes name).

This country claims they want to be a global financial centre, how do they think this will happen when foreigners are considered a problem that should be avoided.


I am not on an F2 but I have a couple of F2 friends. Alt of where you are told, "sorry it is impossible for non-Koreans" is simply the sales/service clerks ignorance. They simply assume that it is impossible. If you keep pushing, ask to speak to the English help line (most banks and big companies have one).

example. I am on an E2, I asked my bank for an international debit card. Was told it was impossible, it's against the law. I told the clerk I have friends that have one. Was told the policy has changed a couple of months ago. I said I had a friend get one last week at the bank up the road. Was told it must have been a mistake. I asked to speak to the help line. Was told they don't have one Rolling Eyes I gave him the number (I needed it the week before). Explained my situation to the help line, the clerk got a yelling at (I heard it over the line). I got my card (didn't work in NZ, different technology, but did work in HK).

So keep pushing, you will get what you need in the end
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean wifey and I both work. Some things are in my name, and others hers.

Neither of us believes in debt, either. In the past, there were times when we needed it (like when I purchased my first house in the USA), or bought a car, but given that we are both working and have enough money, we won't go into debt. Jeonsae is about as close to debt as we care to get -- again, because we have to.

I know there are very valid arguments about how debt can be used as a plus, but as for us, we would rather live with less and know we don't owe for what we have should one of us lose our job.

We could go out and buy a new Sonata (aka 2010 Mercedes design rip-off vehicle) for 19 million tomorrow. We could go out and buy an apartment with a big loan. No thanks. We'll spend when we feel we really need it.
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big_fella1



Joined: 08 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the pointers.

The aim of my rant was that I know that we can do most of the things that I stated, however you do need to push and I am tired of pushing to give people my money.

If I take my wife as a translator at some point of the conversation they say "just put it in your wifes name".

I just want companies to deal with me instead of seeing me as a problem, if I don't qualify because of my job or income then I can accept that, but I cannot accept being disqualified because I am a foreigner. Yes I could run off without paying my bills, but so could my wife, and so could any other Korean.
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