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Is Obama trying to destroy the economy?
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Is this the plan of Obama and his communist buddies?
Yes and bring on the one world government!
42%
 42%  [ 9 ]
Yes and Obama is Jimmy Carter's step son called Obamaflation
4%
 4%  [ 1 ]
No...the economy is about to turn around.
9%
 9%  [ 2 ]
No...keep printing money until it runs out, then we will have Obama money!
19%
 19%  [ 4 ]
I don't care because Obama is my God.
23%
 23%  [ 5 ]
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fiveeagles



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: Is Obama trying to destroy the economy? Reply with quote

How much is the US in debt? How many more government programs are they trying to pile on?

Cloven and Piven
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy


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Pluto



Joined: 19 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just think President Obama is in way over his head w/r/t the economy. There wasn't a response for that so I dind't answer.
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RufusW



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this may be a leading question.
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Street Magic



Joined: 23 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you compare Obama to Carter when the inflation that took place under the Carter administration happened in his last year in office? If anything, Obama would be Reagan in terms of his place in the recession hand off, although it was really LBJ who sowed the seeds for the 1980 recession anyway so it's kind of a moot point. At least you still get to blame a Democrat (and a champion of modern civil rights to boot).
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asylum seeker



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to see another well-balanced and scientific poll.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

asylum seeker wrote:
Good to see another well-balanced and scientific poll.

And no one would ever accuse him of being partisan by cherry-picking Obama and Carter and not mentioning the roles of the Bushes and Reagan. Rolling Eyes

OP, you left out Clinton.
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Reggie



Joined: 21 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, out of the options, I guess I have to go with option 4 ... print money until it's Obamamoney. He'll look good on the $100,000,000,000,000 bill when I need two of them to buy a loaf of bread.

But here's the thing. Obama sucks, but he's merely a reflection of the American people, so the blame rests squarely on our shoulders. Americans, conservatives and liberals alike, seem to want to see spending cuts as long as the cuts don't come out of their gumbent check or sacred cow program so the cuts never happen. Look at our population. Look at how many are government employees. Look at how many prison inmates we have. Look at how many welfare recipients we have. And it seems like most of the people I know are drawing disability checks even though they're clearly not disabled. That's no way to have a viable economy.

Just as Bush was a reflection of America in 2003, Obama is America personified in 2009. He isn't going to change until we do, since he simply panders to our wishes in an effort to be popular and get votes in 2012. So who is really crashing our economy? America or Obama? I would have to say We the People, with Obama as our figurehead.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seconded; if someone's crashing the economy, it's the American people. Living in a societal model like ours has responsibilities, and the American people are routinely not living up to those responsibilities. People who want to blame everything on politicians are missing the mark. Politicians are incentive-driven humans just like anyone else. If they have incentive to behave in a corrupt, damaging fashion, and the American people don't counter balance that incentive with the imminent threat of being removed from office, they're going to do with most humans would do: what's in their own interests.

It's the American people's responsibility to make sure that a politician's interests coincide with their own interests by constantly threatening them with ejection from office. When most Americans can start naming their own representatives, perhaps this will be plausible.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When most Americans can start voting, perhaps this will be plausible.

Fixed it for you.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
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When most Americans can start voting, perhaps this will be plausible.


Fixed it for you.


Hmm. I definitely think voting is an important step, but I'd take it a step further and say that even many people who vote are no where near politically aware enough.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
bacasper wrote:
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When most Americans can start voting, perhaps this will be plausible.


Fixed it for you.


Hmm. I definitely think voting is an important step, but I'd take it a step further and say that even many people who vote are no where near politically aware enough.



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When most Americans can start voting, perhaps can start naming their own representatives.

OK, fixed it even better.
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:17 am    Post subject: Economy Reply with quote

The US economy was in a mess, BEFORE Obama was elected. I'd blame 8 years of mismanagement by GWB. Hardly the fault of those evil socialists & communists!

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How much is the US in debt?


Rank Country Current account balance (million US$)

1 People's Republic of China (PRC) 179,100 2 Japan 174,400 3 Germany 134,800 4 Russia 105,300 5 Saudi Arabia 103,800 6 Norway 63,330 7 Switzerland 50,440 8 Netherlands 50,170 9 Kuwait 40,750 10 Singapore 35,580 11 Venezuela 31,820 12 Sweden 28,610 13 United Arab Emirates 26,890 14 Algeria 25,800 15 Hong Kong 20,900 16 Canada 20,560...163 United States -862,300 (last place).

"Saving is sin, and spending is virtue"... Interesting article written by an Indian Economist, which can easily be googled.
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Pluto



Joined: 19 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: Economy Reply with quote

chris_J2 wrote:
The US economy was in a mess, BEFORE Obama was elected. I'd blame 8 years of mismanagement by GWB. Hardly the fault of those evil socialists & communists!


However, I would still not argue that it was the fault of an unhampered market.

This is a good essay. To me, it sums up how I feel about GWB & Co. (ie. those last 8 years.) Of course, I say this in hindsight.

http://tinyurl.com/2gh69t
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Obama is definitely trying to destroy the economy. We know the antichrist will appear as a great savior and leader but lead to world ruin. After destroying the American economy, Obama will become the leader of the one world government.
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shifter2009



Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djsmnc wrote:
I think Obama is definitely trying to destroy the economy. We know the antichrist will appear as a great savior and leader but lead to world ruin. After destroying the American economy, Obama will become the leader of the one world government.


Might be a really well run NWO, why not just embrace it?
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