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flakfizer
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Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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there's a cancer-causing herb, the stringy green stuff, that usually goes in bibimbap
a dave's poster posted a link to some detailed scientific research on the stuff; can't recall where the info is - stuff has a latin name |
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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| I don't know. Is that Japanese food? Japanese food is world star. |
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reactionary
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Location: korreia
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
there's a cancer-causing herb, the stringy green stuff, that usually goes in bibimbap
a dave's poster posted a link to some detailed scientific research on the stuff; can't recall where the info is - stuff has a latin name |
I'd be interested to read about that. i love bibimbap, might have to start picking out whatever veggies you're talking about! |
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.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
there's a cancer-causing herb, the stringy green stuff, that usually goes in bibimbap
a dave's poster posted a link to some detailed scientific research on the stuff; can't recall where the info is - stuff has a latin name |
I haven't the slightest clue who or what you are referring to, but it is wholly possible that it was a post by a fellow known as "Rapier." As far as I am aware, he hasn't been active in a long time and most of his posts have been deleted (by him, it says at the bottom of the posts).
Which is a shame, because a lot of the comments directed at what he wrote indicated that it was not only good stuff, but excellent scientific knowledge about the various flora and fauna of the peninsula.  |
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ulsanchris
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: take a wild guess
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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That ad was painful to read. I wish Koreans would not do stuff like this
or, at the very least, get some English speakers to help them with it. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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쓰레기밥 is more like it. When I see a bowl of 비빔밥 I feel like someone went to a restaurant, pulled all the discarded left-over side dishes from the trash, and mixed them with rice. Disgusting.
And would it hurt Koreans so much to just get their attempts at English proof-read by a native speaker? Why spend money on such an unprofessional advertisement? |
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Mint
Joined: 08 May 2008
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| It's the brown stringy things, called 고사리. It's in most kimbaps as well. It's actually baby ferns, you'll see the ajumma digging under the pine trees around town for them in the spring, nevermind the potential heavy metal poisoning. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Mint wrote: |
| It's the brown stringy things, called 고사리. It's in most kimbaps as well. It's actually baby ferns, you'll see the ajumma digging under the pine trees around town for them in the spring, nevermind the potential heavy metal poisoning. |
bummer, i love those. good in yukgaejang as well. |
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detourne_me
Joined: 26 May 2006
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Forever
Joined: 12 Nov 2009
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Pteridium aquilinum (fernbrake or bracken fiddleheads)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracken
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Bracken fiddleheads (the immature, tightly curled emerging fronds) have been considered edible by many cultures throughout history, and are still commonly used today as a foodstuff. Bracken fiddleheads are either consumed fresh (and cooked) or preserved by salting, pickling, or sun drying. In Korea, where they are called gosari (고사리), they are a typical ingredient in the mixed rice dish called bibimbap.
Both fronds and rhizomes have been used to brew beer, and the rhizome starch has been used as a substitute for arrowroot. Bread can be made out of dried and powered rhizomes alone or with other flour. American Indians cooked the rhizomes, then peeled and ate them or pounded the starchy fiber into flour. In Japan, starch from the rhizomes is used to make confections.
Bracken is called wiwnunm� �tpas �huckleberry�s blanket� by the Umatilla Indians of the Columbia River in the United States Northwest. The fronds were used to cover a basket full of huckleberries in order to keep them fresh.
The Māori of New Zealand used the rhizomes of P. esculentum (aruhe) as a staple food, especially for exploring or hunting groups away from permanent settlements
Bracken has also been used as a form of herbal remedy. Powdered rhizome has been considered particularly effective against parasitic worms. American Indians ate raw rhizomes as a remedy for bronchitis.
In East Asia, Pteridium aquilinum (fernbrake or bracken fiddleheads) is eaten as a vegetable, called warabi (蕨 / わらび) in Japan, gosari (고사리) in Korea, and ju�c�i (蕨菜) in China and Taiwan. In Korea, a typical banchan (small side dish) is gosari-namul (고사리나물) that consists of prepared fernbrake that has been sauteed. It is a component of the popular dish bibimbap. |
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Bracken has been shown to be carcinogenic in some animals and is thought to be an important cause of the high incidence of stomach cancer in Japan.
Uncooked bracken contains the enzyme thiaminase, which breaks down thiamine. Eating excessive quantities of bracken can cause beriberi, especially in creatures with simple stomachs.
The plant is carcinogenic to animals such as mice, rats, horses and cattle when ingested, although they will usually avoid it unless nothing else is available. Young stems are used as a vegetable in Japan, leading some researchers to suggest a link between consumption and higher stomach cancer rates.
The spores have also been implicated as a carcinogen. Danish scientist Lars Holm Rasmussen released a study in 2004 showing that the carcinogenic compound in bracken, ptaquiloside or PTQ, can leach from the plant into the water supply, which may explain an increase in the incidence of gastric and oesophageal cancers in bracken-rich areas.
In cattle, bracken poisoning can occur in both an acute and chronic form, acute poisoning being the most common. In pigs and horses bracken poisoning induces vitamin B deficiency. Poisoning usually occurs when there is a shortage of available grasses such as in drought or snowfalls.
It damages blood cells and destroys thiamine (Vitamin B1). This in turn causes beriberi, a disease linked to nutritional deficiency.
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Eat any food at your own risk! |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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Poor Choice. Kalbi, Dok Kalbi or Samgyup sal would have been much better choice.
Bibimbab is mediocre at best. Anyone knowing nothing of Korean food would be more inclined to want to try the beef ribs. |
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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The members of the MBC TV reality show "Infinite Challenge" put a full-page advertisement for bibimbap in the New York Times.
Their action follows an episode promoting Korean food in New York and was done jointly with national publicity specialist Seo Kyoung-duk -- an honorary professor at Sungshin Women's University. |
This is news? It's fine that someone took out an ad and wants to promote a dish. But this is worth newsprint to discuss? If some advocacy group in Kansas advertises in a German newspaper to eat pork rinds, should the NYT cover the "story"? |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| .38 Special wrote: |
I haven't the slightest clue who or what you are referring to, but it is wholly possible that it was a post by a fellow known as "Rapier." As far as I am aware, he hasn't been active in a long time and most of his posts have been deleted (by him, it says at the bottom of the posts). |
He is still around, just doesn't use that name anymore. |
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cangel
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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| The very best bibimbap I have ever had is at a small Korean restaurant in Fukuoka, Japan. And before you ask if I have ever had real bibimbap, I have lived in Jeonju, the birthplace of bibimbap-the kitchen of Korea, for 3 years. |
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