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New Engagement Wave - (gender equality)
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MattAwesome



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: New Engagement Wave - (gender equality) Reply with quote

Long have been the days when the man has to go engagement/wedding ring shopping. you end up spending $5000 and hope that the woman of your dreams accepts your proposal.

Here is the problem. My $5000 investment in you shows a really big commitment. and what does the woman have to do? say yes or no. that doesnt warrant anytime of serious commitment on her part. as often as women change their minds. this is no longer acceptable.

if I am going to be $5000 serious, i want to know that yo uare $5000 serious. how about an engagement Rolex for the man? This will prove you are really willing to be in it for the long run.
What do you guys think?
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conrad2



Joined: 05 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you are cheap.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: New Engagement Wave - (gender equality) Reply with quote

MattAwesome wrote:
Long have been the days when the man has to go engagement/wedding ring shopping. you end up spending $5000 and hope that the woman of your dreams accepts your proposal.

Here is the problem. My $5000 investment in you shows a really big commitment. and what does the woman have to do? say yes or no. that doesnt warrant anytime of serious commitment on her part. as often as women change their minds. this is no longer acceptable.

if I am going to be $5000 serious, i want to know that yo uare $5000 serious. how about an engagement Rolex for the man? This will prove you are really willing to be in it for the long run.
What do you guys think?


You are misunderstanding the power of womanhood.

They have your babies ......
5.000 is a minor investment compared to actual offspring.

In the wooing of ladies, you have to show more commitment than the next guy. By buying her an expensive useless trinket (which shows her that you are financially capable of having a family) her insecurity is reduced and therefore the decision for her to commit to you is more favorable.

Learn something about Natural Selection and how it works on the individual.
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Illysook



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, you are cheap, and it's not because you aren't spending enough on the ring.
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously, these days, marriage is something you talk about for awhile before going out and buying a ring/proposing. Or at least, that's how I see it. I wouldn't take the plunge unless I was pretty damn sure she was gonna say yes.
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conrad2



Joined: 05 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reactionary wrote:
Obviously, these days, marriage is something you talk about for awhile before going out and buying a ring/proposing. Or at least, that's how I see it. I wouldn't take the plunge unless I was pretty damn sure she was gonna say yes.


Agreed. This whole notion of "popping the question" is very antiquated. The guy wonders will she or wont she. Likewise the notion of a woman waiting years for her guy to ask is just as silly.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject: Re: New Engagement Wave - (gender equality) Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
MattAwesome wrote:
Long have been the days when the man has to go engagement/wedding ring shopping. you end up spending $5000 and hope that the woman of your dreams accepts your proposal.

Here is the problem. My $5000 investment in you shows a really big commitment. and what does the woman have to do? say yes or no. that doesnt warrant anytime of serious commitment on her part. as often as women change their minds. this is no longer acceptable.

if I am going to be $5000 serious, i want to know that yo uare $5000 serious. how about an engagement Rolex for the man? This will prove you are really willing to be in it for the long run.
What do you guys think?


You are misunderstanding the power of womanhood.

They have your babies ......
5.000 is a minor investment compared to actual offspring.

In the wooing of ladies, you have to show more commitment than the next guy. By buying her an expensive useless trinket (which shows her that you are financially capable of having a family) her insecurity is reduced and therefore the decision for her to commit to you is more favorable.

Learn something about Natural Selection and how it works on the individual.


This is assuming that the woman you are going to marry will even have your kids.
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Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep the 5k and enjoy the money together in more cool ways.
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sarahsiobhan



Joined: 24 May 2009
Location: Wherever I am , I am probably drinking tea.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must say that I am pleasantly surprised by all the men on here being so level-headed in their reactions to the OP. I agree with all of you, but most especially Olivencia (never thought I'd type THAT).

Well done, gentlemen! This kind of made my day!
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Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well even a broken clock is right twice a day. 5000 dollars....that's alot of money for their enjoyment with so many other things. Hey even half that would be a sweet deal. I would definitely stock up on the pizza that night. I wouldn't want my wife to cook for me everynight..... Wink
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sarahsiobhan



Joined: 24 May 2009
Location: Wherever I am , I am probably drinking tea.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olivencia wrote:
I wouldn't want my wife to cook for me everynight..... :wink:



........and there it is. Back on form. At least you're honest!
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Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...to be honest she insists cooking almost every night. It keeps me home. Ya see a Filipina can very jealous. When living there she always did her best to keep me home.....the chicks are very aggressive there (not all but many) and when going out with her there or alone you wouldn't believe some of things they said (and tried doing) to me.
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sarahsiobhan



Joined: 24 May 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough. I actually love to cook, and at one point I seriously considered being a chef, and so it follows that one of my favourite things to do is cook for others. I truly enjoy it. It's the notion of being 'expected' to cook because I'm a woman that irritates me. Being expected to do/feel/think ANYTHING because I'm a woman is irksome, really.
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Olivencia



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well. I guess we're just different. Good thing we're not married Smile
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aboxofchocolates



Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Location: on your mind

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engagement rings simbolize economic power. You give me pay equity I will give you the prettiest diamond ever crushed by the earth's crust (I mean you in the larger sense, not you you). But I'll buy you you a beer).

Woa, that is how I spelt symbolize. I am so Embarassed .
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