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kimchi girl
Joined: 17 Dec 2009
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject: Wonder Girls are number 1 for the year? |
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I saw this article in the times,
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/special/2010/01/178_58414.html
And I'm having trouble believing/understanding it. So I'm looking for someone to explain this to me.
Here's the first passage:
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K-pop group Wonder Girls took the No. 1 spot of the U.S. Billboard's 2009 Year-End Hot Single Sales chart.
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I couldn't find that chart anywhere on the billboard.com site, but I did find it on the billboard.biz site.
http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/charts/yearendcharts/chart_display.jsp?f=Hot+Singles+Sales&g=Year-end+Singles
I don't know what the difference is between the two sites.
I don't know what the hell a 'hot single' is compared to a normal single, either.
Anyway, I'm having serious doubts about the wondergirls having the best selling single of the year, considering they never made it on to the itunes best sellers list, nor past number 90 on the billboard chat.
So anyone who knows more about this area than I, please enlighten me. |
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Radius
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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tel me tell me t-t-t-t-t tell me |
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Burndog

Joined: 17 Feb 2008
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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I believe that the chart tracks the total number of singles sold over the entire year. I also have a suspicion that it includes 'junk singles' that are provided in giveaways. The Wondergirls were involved in a promotion with some clothing store (I'm not American so I don't remember the name of the store (sorry)) and were giving away copies with purchases made at the store.
I think that this may have bolstered their number of units shifted. Having said that, it was a very clever marketing ploy to have them tour with the Jonas Brothers...and I'm sure that it helped to shift a number of actual units as well. |
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Moldy Rutabaga

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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It's something to be proud of as a country. But it should be taken into consideration that when you go to the Billboard site (thanks for the link), there are about thirty or forty pulldown options for charts. So Nobody was #1 on the Year-End Hot Singles Chart but only #26 on the Reasonably Lukewarm Singles Chart and only #73 on the Boiling Hot Ringtone Download for Fuchsia-Teal Cellphones Singles Chart. |
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oskinny1

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Right behind you!
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:14 am Post subject: |
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I really do not care if they make it big or not (other than my students annoyingly telling me that they are #1 in America constantly like they did earlier when it was erroneously published that they were) but who actually releases singles anymore?
I remember for my 13th birthday Ben Fellows bought me the "Love in an Elevator" single. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:34 am Post subject: |
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Jyp is just spreading more BS and the journalists are buying it..
he knows he can say what ever he wants in the koreans will believe it..
like he is an original song writer and has connection in the US..
I rememeber he once said he co wrote the song.. "YEAH" with Usher and little john ,,,, YEAH RIGHT!! hahahahaa |
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DeMayonnaise
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:37 am Post subject: |
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It's unbelievable how clueless Koreans are on popular music. K-pop is garbage, and I don't know anybody in the US who listens to the wondergirls. Then again, I'm not a 14 year old girl. |
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out of context
Joined: 08 Jan 2006 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:55 am Post subject: |
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oskinny1 wrote: |
I really do not care if they make it big or not (other than my students annoyingly telling me that they are #1 in America constantly like they did earlier when it was erroneously published that they were) but who actually releases singles anymore? |
On the mark. The chart is legitimate, but it's for the sales of physical singles, which nobody sells any more -- hence no competition. All the real sales are by digital download, and if you look at the digital downloads chart, it's a much more accurate reflection of what was actually popular. Basically, this is like finishing first on the Hot 45s of the Year chart.
My understanding is that the singles were dumped at a dollar apiece while the Wonder Girls were touring with the Jonas Brothers. |
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kimchi girl
Joined: 17 Dec 2009
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:36 am Post subject: |
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I figured it had to be something like free giveaways or something similar.
I don't think they ever cracked the top 50 on the actual charts, and they never made it on to any top download chart. I would not be surprised if this was the result of almost ALL giveaway CDs.
I should state that I am not opposed to the group, I just thought the story was dubious, especially since I couldn't even find that chart on the billboard chart. |
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Daniel_D
Joined: 29 Dec 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:05 am Post subject: |
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shrugs they are touring with the Jonas Brothers. The young kids might like them, but by doing that... it pretty much stops 90% of the people over the age of 12 from liking them. |
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janafromfrance
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:56 am Post subject: |
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really sad they have to be tricky. I mean the korean kids will think it was a number one hit in America, but in reality, it was not a hit. It seems like koreans love to play with stats like that, aways seeing if they can weasle something into putting them into the top of some random list that will prove to the world they are 'great'. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:09 am Post subject: |
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janafromfrance wrote: |
really sad they have to be tricky. I mean the korean kids will think it was a number one hit in America, but in reality, it was not a hit. It seems like koreans love to play with stats like that, aways seeing if they can weasle something into putting them into the top of some random list that will prove to the world they are 'great'. |
Hence the whole Stephen Colbert vs. Rain saga:
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/168351/may-09-2008/stephen-vs--rain
Some Koreans found a poll on Time Magazine's website for most influential person of the year, and they flooded the site with duplicate votes for Korean pop singer Rain so he would make #1. Colbert got #2, and so he started a "rivalry" with Rain, it was hilarious. |
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whiteshoes
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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My 7-year-old American nieces love k-pop. They think the songs are "catchy" and the girls are pretty.
So the average Korean has the same sense of pop culture of a 7-year-old American girl. I'm not surprised. |
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