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abigolblackman
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:29 pm Post subject: Winter Camp is Da Bomb! |
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Seriously, I was didn't want to come in for these three weeks as much as anyone else, and this is my second year thorough it. But it just so happens like camp time. Smaller classes and more dedicated students that actually do their work. 4x 40 minute classes blazes by. Finish at 12p and I'm out the door. No co-teacher breathing down my back and honestly feel as if the kids learned something when they left.
SMOE seriously needs to consider implementing this model into the regular school year. I work the same amount of hours, students seem to learn more, or are at least more attentive and do their work, and I don't have to waste my afternoon surfing the internet at work when I could do it naked it home.
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Seoul'n'Corea
Joined: 06 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Winter Camp is Da Bomb! |
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abigolblackman wrote: |
Seriously, I was didn't want to come in for these three weeks as much as anyone else, and this is my second year thorough it. But it just so happens like camp time. Smaller classes and more dedicated students that actually do their work. 4x 40 minute classes blazes by. Finish at 12p and I'm out the door. No co-teacher breathing down my back and honestly feel as if the kids learned something when they left.
SMOE seriously needs to consider implementing this model into the regular school year. I work the same amount of hours, students seem to learn more, or are at least more attentive and do their work, and I don't have to waste my afternoon surfing the internet at work when I could do it naked it home.
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We only teach 45minute classes anyways, and we cycle through all the grades in one week unless leveled....
I am not sure what you mean. You want 2 hours classes instead of 45minutes? Home time is 4:30pm -- you want to be off at 12:30pm? explain.
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Kaypea
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I think I know what BOBM means. I like teaching 4 back-to-back classes with no co-teacher (a plus!), as long as the classes are small (20 kids or fewer), task or conversation based (no terrible textbook), and with kids who are interested in English class-- even if their level happens to be low.
Our jobs would be more fun, if:
-English conversation classes were smaller and elective
-We could use a curriculum based on conversation and task-based learning, rather than on textbook dialogues
-We could give some sort of grading system, even if just giving participation marks (this is what I'm doing)[/b] |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Camp classes are my favorite classes of the year. I just wish they were standardized with a curriculum. Because it's a pain building 20 odd classes from scratch. It would be nice if they had something you could build it around, like a small book you have to cover then make some fun activities for the rest of the time. Which is basically what I do. Three days of material from various text books and three days of fun, only tenuously educational, art/craft, movie activities. |
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Seoul'n'Corea
Joined: 06 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Kaypea wrote: |
Well, I think I know what BOBM means. I like teaching 4 back-to-back classes with no co-teacher (a plus!), as long as the classes are small (20 kids or fewer), task or conversation based (no terrible textbook), and with kids who are interested in English class-- even if their level happens to be low.
Our jobs would be more fun, if:
-English conversation classes were smaller and elective
-We could use a curriculum based on conversation and task-based learning, rather than on textbook dialogues
-We could give some sort of grading system, even if just giving participation marks (this is what I'm doing)[/b] |
I'll agree with you on these points.
English being an elective is the right attitude, but this country barley understands democracy.
Education here is about grading only. There isn't a child centered mindset anywhere here. Seriously .... |
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abigolblackman
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Well, 45 minutes = 1 hour but if you put those back to back, you only have to work 8:30a ~ 12:15p. With smaller classes, no co-teacher, control over the material, and the ability to actually leave school when we are done teaching, I think there would be a lot less beff and bad blood in this country.
Some would say that having to schedule classes around foreign teachers is ridiculous, but the fact is that they already rearrange classes around us. Why not just give them a framework that we teach in the morning with a certain amount of students. I think this would make things a lot more easier for all those involved.
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nautilus

Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Rusty Shackleford wrote: |
I just wish they were standardized with a curriculum. Because it's a pain building 20 odd classes from scratch. It would be nice if they had something you could build it around, like a small book you have to cover then make some fun activities for the rest of the time. . |
Agreed. A teacher doesn't necesarrily know how to design a curriculum, nor should they realy be expected to.
Also they tend to not give you enough advance warning to make thorough planning.
I wish they'd just forget this idea of "do a conversation class" with kids. I tend to throw that idea out the window straight off because they generally aren't proactive or advanced enough. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:12 am Post subject: Re: Winter Camp is Da Bomb! |
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abigolblackman wrote: |
Seriously, I was didn't want to come in for these three weeks as much as anyone else, and this is my second year thorough it. But it just so happens like camp time. Smaller classes and more dedicated students that actually do their work. 4x 40 minute classes blazes by. Finish at 12p and I'm out the door. No co-teacher breathing down my back and honestly feel as if the kids learned something when they left.
SMOE seriously needs to consider implementing this model into the regular school year. I work the same amount of hours, students seem to learn more, or are at least more attentive and do their work, and I don't have to waste my afternoon surfing the internet at work when I could do it naked it home.
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As long as you use phrases like "was didn't," however, you may end up with MORE breathing down your neck...like I am right now! |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Winter Camp is Da Bomb! |
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abigolblackman wrote: |
Seriously, I was didn't want to come in for these three weeks as much as anyone else, and this is my second year thorough it. But it just so happens like camp time. Smaller classes and more dedicated students that actually do their work. 4x 40 minute classes blazes by. Finish at 12p and I'm out the door. No co-teacher breathing down my back and honestly feel as if the kids learned something when they left.
SMOE seriously needs to consider implementing this model into the regular school year. I work the same amount of hours, students seem to learn more, or are at least more attentive and do their work, and I don't have to waste my afternoon surfing the internet at work when I could do it naked it home.
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They have already have them in the regular school year. They're called after school programs or after school babysitting. Plus, no job finishes at 12pm in the real world. |
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abigolblackman
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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@djsmnc
Did I use "was didn't"? I don't see it. Bold it for me.
@Xuanzang
I think teaching English in Korea is far removed from the "real world" jobs you speak of. Besides that, there are morning only Kindy/adult classes , and many fashion designers in Korea finish work @ 12p. So yes, some jobs do finish at 12p...in the "real world".
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jiberish

Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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At my old job, we were able to design every aspect of the summer/winter camps. It was great! However it was more fun based learning. If you want more of a teaching role. Then you should work in after school program. One time I got put in the art class. It was the easiest week of work in my life. They would come in, draw some stuff, tell me what it is. I say "Wow that is great" then yeah.... that was it. It got a little boring so I started drawing with the students which was good too.
Epic waste of my degree though |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: Winter Camp is Da Bomb! |
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abigolblackman wrote: |
Seriously, I was didn't want to come in for these three weeks
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Anyway, I was just giving you a hard time |
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abigolblackman
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Da-yam, I didn't see that at all. I have no idea were that 'was' came from.
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vonnegutjr
Joined: 24 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:58 am Post subject: |
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If you like working 4 hours with small classes, no co-teacher, and back to back classes, you should try a hagwon.
Winter camp is not da-bomb. |
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:17 am Post subject: |
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I guess winter camp means different things to different people and at different schools. My winter camp rocks. The students are motivated. They do the work. They play. They have fun. I keep them on their toes and move quickly through 3 40 minute periods, plus a couple of extra half period to do stuff like writing, reading and performance practice. Day is done at a few minutes past noon and I have the rest of the day to do my own thing. I wrote all my lesson plans, planned the curriculum and away we go. I could easily do this for the year and it would be a blast. This is an ideal way to learn. If anyone knows a school or hogwan that has this same system where students are motivated and want to be there, let me know. But I doubt it. |
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