Korean Job Discussion Forums

[raewon]

Every teacher? Does that include native speakers? Can native speakers receive a sabbatical year in Korea? Would immigration create a new visa category? [E2-Sab]

[PatrickGHBusan]

Sounds like every Korean Teacher.

[Seoul'n'Corea]

[Chaucer]

I heard about this today from the wife and I am REALLY wondering how it could be implemented. Great if it is, I think, just the thing they need, addressing the problem at the source instead of targeting the symptoms (hagwon fees, etc.). BUT, the teachers' union here is strong (and is, just like in the US, one of the primary causes of educational malaise) and I can't see how they'd let this work, even if they agree to it in principle.

[PatrickGHBusan]

[Toju]

About time. The unions blocked this a few years ago, so I am glad that something is finally being done about teacher evaluation. It might drag the level of some of these Korean teachers up out of the sewer they are currently in.

[Ramen]

I'd love to see this happen to all Korean teachers. All drunken and lazy teachers will finally start teaching the students.

The students will start ganging-up on teachers and we may see some "Wang-Tta" Korean teachers.

[PRagic]

Had someone tried to implement a similar system concerning corporate managers, we'd have a few less headaches right about now.

[wylies99]

It�s a shame the Korean teacher�s union is so out of touch with reality that it couldn�t properly explain why this is a bad idea. I will try to explain for those who understand what it�s like to be a teacher. (Not everyone on Dave�s is a teacher ).

Those who think this is a good idea should rethink that position. There are many problems with coming up with the right questions and setting up the reward system.

You think current school students can properly evaluate a teacher? Those who went to college- think back- when you were a young student, which teacher would you have loved-the teacher who lets you slide through but you learn nothing or the teacher who makes you work, but who gives you many relevant assignments? The question isn�t who taught you more important and relevant lessons; the question is who would you have given a top score as a young student? You know the answer.

The problem now becomes that the Korean teacher who plays more for popularity will get a reward-a year off. Is that a good thing for students? And what about discipline? Will Korean teachers allow classrooms to get rowdier in order to get that year off?

Face it- This is a bad idea.

[jvalmer]

This is a terrible idea. Even at the university level it's questionable and I've done a lot being on the student side, I was total biased against profs that gave me bad marks.

[ponyo]

wylies, you're exactly right. elementary school students will evaluate their teachers? huh?

not only that, by why would the MOE place any validity on the evaluation of teachers by parents. parents? what in the mfing world would the parent know about the teachers? what they hear from the kids when they complain at home?

a really, really, stupid idea!

[nautilus]

[wylies99]

[PatrickGHBusan]

Well thankfully most people here have no say in how or if this evaluation process is established and run.

BTW...asking if something needs improving is called constructive criticism and is very beneficial to the person being criticised if he can act upon it.

Evaluations can be done with a rating system from say Excellent to Inadequate with comment boxes.

The value of excellent to inadequate can be determined by the people in charge of the evaluation program...not by the evaluators. That limits bias and subjectivity. The results of the evaluations can then be put through a statistical relevency model to see if complaints are valid or not. Teachers can finally be evaluated by 4 different evaluators that do not see each others work at different points during the school year.

That too limits subjectivity and bias.

But hey..its a bad idea.

[DosEquisXX]

This has just as much room for abuse as any other evaluation system. Let's be realistic. How many NETs are going to get a sabbatical year for good teaching performance? Give me an effin' break. The only thing a system like this does is harm NETs. Korean teachers take care of themselves and will basically be immune to any negative consequences.

Plus, look who is doing the ratings. Students have no background for evaluating teachers. Seriously, how embarrassing is it to have 6 year old kids evaluating your teaching. What can they say? That they like you because you gave out candy and stickers? Your colleagues probably don't like you for one stupid reason or another and have every reason to give you negative evaluations. Parents don't know who you are and generally rely on the ideas of their children to evaluate a teacher.