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Can I midnight run and return to Korea?

 
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Roam



Joined: 17 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:37 pm    Post subject: Can I midnight run and return to Korea? Reply with quote

I ended up in an impossible employment situation in a hogwan in Korea. About six months into my contract I did a runner and came home to Canada. Am I able to return to Korea in the future to try again at another hogwan? Is there some way for me to check if I will have a problem if I return to Korea? Could my future Korean employers become aware of the fact that I ran on my first contract?
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humanuspneumos



Joined: 08 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:44 pm    Post subject: Well Reply with quote

On the record they can't- off the record they can if you try to process another E2. In some strange way- not really- the employers get the immigration to cough up the information on their screen of whom the last employer was that sponsored you. Then- not uncommon at all- they phone that employer and spew garbage about you (in my opinion 99% of the time- lies).

I've never heard of anyone having trouble just simply re-entering on a vistor visa. Perhaps that's your only option if you're going to return.
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard that if you return to a different province on an E-2 you are ok. Not sure how true this is.
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Can I midnight run and return to Korea? Reply with quote

Roam wrote:
I ended up in an impossible employment situation in a hogwan in Korea. About six months into my contract I did a runner and came home to Canada. Am I able to return to Korea in the future to try again at another hogwan? Is there some way for me to check if I will have a problem if I return to Korea? Could my future Korean employers become aware of the fact that I ran on my first contract?


Have you asked the consulate?
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

humanuspneumos,

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Then- not uncommon at all- they phone that employer and spew garbage about you (in my opinion 99% of the time- lies).



So, keeping with the logic of that quote, you would say that 99% of the time the midnight run is because of the school and that 99% of teachers who run were doing bang up jobs at their respective hakwons.

finally this would boil down to only 1% of what schools say being true....hmmmm...thats some stat my man... Laughing

Exsqueeze me if I take it with a huge grain of salt or take it as a joke.


About the OP: da dragon said the best thing: talk to the consulate.

As for your run, you might have problems coming back if your ex boss filed a complaint with immigration.
Also, if he did not cancel your E-2 you will need a letter of release to get a new one.

Again...talk to some official instead of asking on here man.
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buddy bradley



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go cowboy - working legally is nothing but a waste and disgrace in my opinion. You're from Canada; you have the time. Use it.
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the run 4 times at least. There is never a problem. Even if you don't have a release letter, you can still work. Either illegally or your new boss will pay a bribe on your behalf. There certainly is no problem with coming back to the country. These days they only stop you if you have brown skin.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4 times....a prime example of whats wrong with many people who come here... Laughing
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
4 times....a prime example of whats wrong with many people who come here... Laughing


No, a prime example of what's wrong with the release letter system. It puts all the control in your boss's hands and leaves you stuck. If I get screwed, which seems to be ineveitable at every job (except this one so far 9 months in) then I simply quit. There is no such thing as negotiating. I learned the hard way when I told my first boss at Wonderland I wanted to quit: he stole a bag from my apartment with my diploma in it, obtained copies of my my phone records to see who I'd been calling, didn't pay me my last months salary, locked me in the school and screamed at me for 30 minutes. In order to get my bag back he made me sign some paper saying I received all my pay but gave it back to cover the expense of finding a new teacher.
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Wishmaster



Joined: 06 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Shawner88, your school wasn't located on an Island starting with a "K" was it(close to Pusan). If so, I've known some people who have worked there and told me about the "management". Later.
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danyuk



Joined: 17 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try and get the visa in Canada and c if it goes through. If it does ur sorted and if it doesnt u havent had a waisted trip!
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Homer
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shawner I would agree with your statement about the release system if you had run one time.

However, four times indicates something else my man.

Its as simple as the law of probability. You can't always have been the "victim" and your various bosses the "villain"..... Laughing


One run under the right circumstances can be attributed to a last resort choice.
Four...thats a trend my man.
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anemone



Joined: 12 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:49 am    Post subject: so he ran and now wants to use his past experience... Reply with quote

My bf worked in Korea for a year then signed on for another six months to help the school find a new teacher. 4 months into that second contract, his pay starts arriving later and later, the director gets fired for embezzling and 100 students leave. He figures the school is going to close, so he jumps ship and goes home (he was the sole foreign teacher). He wants to go back with me (I did 2 years and went home) but it turns out the school survived and the Korean teachers and secretary are still there. What does he do about past experience? If someone calls up to check references, it may not be too pretty.
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jedisun



Joined: 18 Mar 2004
Location: EUROPE

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:00 am    Post subject: MIDNIGHT RUN Reply with quote

I had a meeting with the Chief Consular officer at an embassy in a European country just today to check on the status of my E-2 Visa. I left Korea six months ago from a very bad condition when my father was ill.

I was told that I can return on this visa up until the time that it expires and that I should have no fears about returning to Korea.

When I return it will be with a ticket on to Osaka, just in case this Embassy officer is wrong.
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