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blade



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:18 pm    Post subject: What's up with Canada? Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOIOS2NHf3E&feature=player_embedded#
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laserprinter



Joined: 18 Jun 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice video though
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Emark



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Location: duh, Korea?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ohcanadamovie.com/

I think I will be creating a thread for Canadians so they can wake up. There is so much deception that mars the ability for anybody to see reality clearly.

Does anyone really know how banks function? How is money created? What is the income tax and what does it pay for? Are you a person? Seriously, are you a person? What is the birth certificate? What is maritime admiralty jurisdiction and how does it affect you? Do you know what contracts are? No, what they really are?
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Sergio Stefanuto



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Location: UK

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Canada.

(1) They banned George Galloway from entering,
(2) They chopped off some anti-Israel groups from funding,
and (3)....

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Canada refused to recognize the Greenpeace Environmental Foundation as a charity, saying its activities provided no discernable benefits to the public and, in fact, could send families �into poverty.�


The good old US of A, on the other hand.....

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Former EPA Administrator-turned-Climate-Czar Carol Browner and other federal agency heads continue to fork over large sums of taxpayer money to Greenpeace and similar eco-activists


And what gifts to a grateful world does Greenpeace bring? Delights such as.....

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Bt corn has enabled farmers to cut pesticide use and expenses by 75%, triple their profits, save 35-49 days per season working in fields, and save enough to buy a refrigerator or even a new house. And yet rich-country Greenpeace activists oppose the technology.

Greenpeace campaigns against insecticides and insect-repelling DDT are even more lethal. These chemicals could prevent malaria, which kills a million people annually and leaves millions more brain-damaged�

Worldwide, 1.5 billion people still don�t have electricity for lights, refrigerators, stoves, schools, shops, hospitals and factories that would bring health, opportunity and prosperity. Yet Greenpeace continues to battle hydrocarbon, hydroelectric and nuclear power.

http://www.theatheistconservative.com/2010/01/16/the-evil-that-greenpeace-does/
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I like Canada.

(1) They banned George Galloway from entering


Wasn't exactly a shining moment for Canada's commitment to the free-exchange of ideas, in my view. What awful things did they think were gonna result from Galloway coming into the country and giving his usual speech?

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The good old US of A, on the other hand.....

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Former EPA Administrator-turned-Climate-Czar Carol Browner and other federal agency heads continue to fork over large sums of taxpayer money to Greenpeace and similar eco-activists


I don't know about Greenpeace per se, but I'm pretty sure that similar environmental groups get funding from the Canadian government.
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tatu



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

video..hmm..butch of fluff set to music
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
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I like Canada.

(1) They banned George Galloway from entering


Wasn't exactly a shining moment for Canada's commitment to the free-exchange of ideas, in my view. What awful things did they think were gonna result from Galloway coming into the country and giving his usual speech?

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The good old US of A, on the other hand.....

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Former EPA Administrator-turned-Climate-Czar Carol Browner and other federal agency heads continue to fork over large sums of taxpayer money to Greenpeace and similar eco-activists


I don't know about Greenpeace per se, but I'm pretty sure that similar environmental groups get funding from the Canadian government.


Galloway was banned under section 34(1) of the Immigration act. He bragged about giving financial support to Hamas which was banned in Canada.

" A permanent resident or a foreign national in inadmissible on security grounds for:


(b) Engaging in or instigating the subversion by force of any government"


While Galloway is not doing this, Hamas is and he is (by his own admission) a supporter of Hamas which is why he was banned in accordance with the Immigration Act.

And Canada has never been noted for the free-exchange of all ideas. Remember what happened to that Holocaust denier guy? Any government has the right to decide what exchanges of ideas in a public forum will be tolerated and what will not.


As for the "similar environmental groups" that the Canadian government gives money to...which ones in particular are those?
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Galloway was banned under section 34(1) of the Immigration act. He bragged about giving financial support to Hamas which was banned in Canada.

" A permanent resident or a foreign national in inadmissible on security grounds for:


(b) Engaging in or instigating the subversion by force of any government"

While Galloway is not doing this, Hamas is and he is (by his own admission) a supporter of Hamas which is why he was banned in accordance with the Immigration Act.



Well, if that's the way the Canadian Immigration Act works, and if it's always enforced that way, I guess I think the Act should be changed.

The US, which actually has Hamas on a list of terrorist groups, somehow managed to allow Galloway in without any noticable negative consequences. So I'm not sure what Canada was accomplishing by keeping him out, besides denying people the opportunity to hear him speak.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Remember what happened to that Holocaust denier guy? Any government has the right to decide what exchanges of ideas in a public forum will be tolerated and what will not.



Which one? There was Keegstra and Zundel. Can't say I supported the prosecution of either of them.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
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Galloway was banned under section 34(1) of the Immigration act. He bragged about giving financial support to Hamas which was banned in Canada.

" A permanent resident or a foreign national in inadmissible on security grounds for:


(b) Engaging in or instigating the subversion by force of any government"

While Galloway is not doing this, Hamas is and he is (by his own admission) a supporter of Hamas which is why he was banned in accordance with the Immigration Act.



Well, if that's the way the Canadian Immigration Act works, and if it's always enforced that way, I guess I think the Act should be changed.

The US, which actually has Hamas on a list of terrorist groups, somehow managed to allow Galloway in without any noticable negative consequences. So I'm not sure what Canada was accomplishing by keeping him out, besides denying people the opportunity to hear him speak.



My point is that Galloway was banned for a perfectly legitimate reason...regardless of possible negative consequences which may or may not have happened.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
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Remember what happened to that Holocaust denier guy? Any government has the right to decide what exchanges of ideas in a public forum will be tolerated and what will not.



Which one? There was Keegstra and Zundel. Can't say I supported the prosecution of either of them.


I was thinking of Zundel. And while you may have good valid reasons for not supporting their prosecution, again I'm simply making the point that Canada is not a bastion of free speech or free-exchange of ideas. We do have limits on certain things. Hate speech (against any group including Jews or gays) is absolutely prohibited in Canada. Someone like Keegstra or Zundel or even Galloway just isn't welcome in that climate.
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