Korean Job Discussion Forums

[hugoadelgado]

I'm trying to get a university job but they all ask for master's degree, but i have ran into some uni teachers that don't have a master's. So the question is, how hard or easy is it to land one of them jobs without a masters?

I do have a b.a. and 2 tesol certificates and a year and a half of experience teaching english to children.

[bassexpander]

That goes to show you how worthwhile TESOL certificates are here.

Most people with BA's probably got their jobs a few years ago, before MA's were more plentiful. Others knew people who helped them squeeze in when an immediate hire was needed.

Others may have just interviewed very well, or put together a dynamite lesson/package.

[Lunar Groove Gardener]

Since you have ran into people, your answer is at hand.
Generally you are required to have some knowledge of basic grammar.

No offense, just the facts.

[Trevor]

Listen, Lunar, I have been looking for a grammar/spell checker here for awhile. I'm gonna need you to review all my posts for typos and let me get the proofs by Monday okay? Shake a leg. Can't be too thorough


As for getting a Uni, yes you can do it, but remember that a good P.S. beats a crappy uni any day.

The trick is:

- Killer resume
- Killer cover letter
- Professional photograph

Many people don't realize how important the last item is. Get a good photograph taken, dressed in business attire, to send with your resume. It increases employers' comfort level dramatically.

[hellofaniceguy]

[Xuanzang]

[Lunar Groove Gardener]

Trevor, send me a PM with the scope of your project and we'll discuss rates and time lines.

[naturegirl321]

WOosong hires people with just BAs. THey're a unigwon.

[Thiuda]

While I think unis are looking at hiring more MA qualified teachers than previously, you can still find employment with just a BA. In my opinion the key to securing uni employment for someone with a BA is to put together a killer application package, highlighting all of your relevant qualifications, and apply to universities outside of major metropolitan regions. Universities in Seoul, Busan and Daegu/Daejon are more difficult to get into because of the amount of competition, while if you're willing to move into more rural areas you can find good jobs much more easily.

Good luck in your search.

[cubanlord]

[sjk1128]

I disagree that pointing out the grammar mistake was a "cheap shot." The OP says that he or she wants to work at a university. At many universities, even in Korea, a solid grasp of the present perfect is certainly one prerequisite for "them jobs." Lunar Groove Gardener was right to mention this fact.

Of course, the "have ran" comment may have been a simple mistake, but probably not. It is much more likely that it is an error - that the OP would not have realized it was incorrect unless someone had pointed it out. As an instructor at a university in Seoul, my classes range from 2 hours of practice at an upper-beginner level to high-level elective classes involving discussion at a near-native level. I'm in favor of people speaking whatever vernacular is most comfortable at home or socially and don't really judge anyone because of it. However, that is really out of place in a university classroom, except as an aside for the most advanced students. And, obviously, the instructor has to know the difference. As English teachers we have to know how to teach, but we also have to know some standard variety of English intimately. To my knowledge, "I have ran," is not a part of any of them. If you teach at a university, some of your students (perhaps most of them) will not know the difference, but some definitely will, and you will do them all a disservice.

[ddeubel]

sjk1128,

I still think it is a cheap shot.

Your post is full of elitist prescriptive nonsense. Teachers don't teach any "standard" English. We teach the language people use not that from some "rule book".

I used "have ran" with 5 different native speakers today. Not one spat out their coffee or even blinked.

"have ran" is an accepted form of English - not an "error" (though in formal varieties of writing it still might be unacceptable) - I suggest it is you who hasn't kept up with the wonderfully changing nature of language (which beyond all else, is its motor and defining feature). Our teaching is informed by the living language and not the other way around (the language informed by our teaching).

DD
http://eflclassroom.com

[Thiuda]

[Cerberus]

what's "have ran"??

is that another example of people not bothering to conjugate their participles and just using the simple past tense?

(just like making adverbs into adjectives)

next thing someone will tell me that the languague is EVOLVING this way.

maybe it is. On the factory assembly lines which have now moved overseas perhaps.

even if you'll accept the same remnimbi salary on the Chinese assembly line as the Chinese peasant, you still won't get hired. I think their salary is about 1000 remnimbi a month or so (140 USD)

if unemployed strikes you as a great concept, then by all means use "have ran" and played good, etc.

[Murakano]