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Americans don't pay taxes for first year?

 
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Evildmn



Joined: 03 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:02 am    Post subject: Americans don't pay taxes for first year? Reply with quote

Hey guys, I heard that Americans aren't supposed to pay income tax for the first two years... Is this true? If it is is there any way to verify it?

Also is there any number for the tax revenue office that I could call in english?
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broken76



Joined: 27 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a bit confusing and can actually hurt some teachers. If you're working for a public school in Korea you can opt not to pay income tax here in Korea for up to 2 years. In return you get to pay income tax back in home. Considering the tax rate here in Korea is much much lower I recommend you simply pay your taxes here.
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Evildmn



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? Because I've heard that you have to pay taxes on what you make here when you get home also?

I guess it's a moot point for me as I'm a hakwon teacher anyways.
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frankly speaking



Joined: 23 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why would you have to pay income tax in the US for an overseas job that isn't with a US company?

You do need to file taxes, but unless you make a certain amount (I don't recall what it is but something like 50kUSD) you don't have to pay taxes on overseas income.

I have always had them pay the tax in Korea I think at most I lose about 150,000 won a month. Something like 3% whereas in the US it is like 14%
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Provence



Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You still have to claim it on your tax return. However, you are exempt up to $80,000. Just make sure you claim it with the right form, I don�t remember the form but if you do a search on this site I am sure you will find it.
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broken76



Joined: 27 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally for taxes if you work outside of the US for the najority of the yea (I believe 330 days) you can file to be exempt from paying income tax since you are a nonresident for the year. The form that is required to avoid paying taxes in korea is telling the IRS, yes you are going to be out of the couuntry for a year but would still like to be a resident and to pay your full income tax. Your income is supposed to be taxed where you are earning it. So even for state income tax if you're earning it in a different state you pay the tax in that state and not he state that you live in. Doesn't really apply to the average person but for a pro athlete playng an away game they pay the state income tax where they played that game and not in their home state.
Same thing for the taxes on income earned in Korea. You are required to pay income tax in one country but you have the rigth to choose which country. You cannot be exempt from both countries.
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

frankly speaking wrote:
why would you have to pay income tax in the US for an overseas job that isn't with a US company?

You do need to file taxes, but unless you make a certain amount (I don't recall what it is but something like 50kUSD) you don't have to pay taxes on overseas income.

I have always had them pay the tax in Korea I think at most I lose about 150,000 won a month. Something like 3% whereas in the US it is like 14%


Their logic is that you have to pay taxes somewhere.

You file the 2555 or 2555EZ. To qualify you have to
1. Have a TAX home outside of the US. This is the confusing part, does tax resident mean income tax, or any tax, such as the tax on goods when you go shopping.

AND have one of the following
1. 330 days physcially outside of the US
2. Be a foreign resident.

So if you're not paying in the US, you should pay in Korea. If youre not paying there, you should pay the US. I think. I honestly don't get it either. The limit is 91,400. But doesn't count self employement money at all. that's taxed at 15.3% if it's over 400 bucks for the year.
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