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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:14 am    Post subject: Your worst ever lesson...!?? Reply with quote

Ok Guys and gals, tell me about your worst ever lesson in Korea! This is intended as a funny thread to laugh at how ridiculous some lessons can become. I know some of you like me probably have one or two terrible lessons each week... but one must stand out..!

WORST LESSON EVER: 12yr old class from hell... about a year back. 3 girl bullies started running in and out the classroom screaming and pushing the other kids...after having intimidated them into silence weeks before. I started shouting and wrestling with them to get them to stay in the classroom. They got so out of control I ended up slapping all 3 of them. That was over a year ago.

WORST LESSON TODAY: Silly, noisy middle school girls who basically prefer to ignore me and talk all lesson- because they can, and there is nothing to make them do any work. One was doing homework, so I grabbed her book and refused to give it back...degenerated into a book wrestling match, with the books all twisted out of shape by the end..Kinda funny, because she was the one getting all wound up, not me...heheh...
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WORST EVER:
About 2 years ago i was teaching a class of middle school 2nd. year(14 y.o.) and the whole class was girls and it was their first English lesson ever.

None of them could speak a word of English and there was one girl who basically had the voice of a loudspeaker and she never shut up. She kept talking the whole class and basically I lost it at her and told her to get out.

It doesn't sound so bad I know but that was probably my worst.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mind you they rank alongside what I remember as the "Fatboy incident". He was the most irritating, rebellious, disruptive degenerate I ever faced. School would not support my disciplinary efforts, instead comforted and took his side. In the end i tore his book to bits and threw all his stuff all over class, and refused to ever teach him again. That job was then assigned to the Korean teachers.

Or possibly the "kwak" episode.. this smartass specialised in doing everything opposite to what I asked... one time he attempted to jump out the window.. kwak got a solid smack round the head. He went on a mysterious break from lessons for months after that...and only returned after telling wonjangnim. Who sympathised more with me, but asked not to do it again...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you engage in a book wrestling match with one of your students mate?

Worst Lesson ever: march 1998, Kidergarten (beginners). Two of my students were in diapers and I had to hold one in my arms because if I didn't she would wail. I had to teach the lesson with a sleeping kid in my arms while the other diapered student peed himself and one of the other young students ate her crayons....lovely.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Why would you engage in a book wrestling match with one of your students mate?

Worst Lesson ever: march 1998, Kidergarten (beginners). Two of my students were in diapers and I had to hold one in my arms because if I didn't she would wail. I had to teach the lesson with a sleeping kid in my arms while the other diapered student peed himself and one of the other young students ate her crayons....lovely.


I engage in book wrestling to prevent them from doing their other homework during my lesson... "mate". I presume you just let them continue doing it...
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm it's funny how I have forgotten so much of the crap I endured in my hawgwon days.

I think one of my worst lessons was my first month in Korea. They gave me a "special" class with 5 middle school girls. They weren't THAT good at English and well they wouldn't STFU.

So I was asking questions and one of the smarter girls said something off the wall. My reply was "stop acting stupid"...well the girl misunderstands and starts turning on the water works saying "I am not stupid, how can you call me stupid" etc.

Worst lesson a newbie can I have ... so bad I will probably never forget that.

My worst lesson in high school ... well happens every week when no matter WHAT I do to get a class to talk, they just won't say a word. I call it class chemistry...sometimes you got it, other times...well I have one class that is as dry as can be...
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WORST LESSON IN RECENT MEMORY. Haha, I love this thread. What happens when there are FOUR kids with attitude in a class of ten kids? Well, let me tell you. So I was leaving to get the basketball hoop and ball for the last five minutes of class and 'answer and you get a shot' when three students slip out and want to play 'catch me if you can' around the school. Imagine my joy! All but one back in, who is 'hiding' (so CUTE!) in the next, empty class room playing peekaboo (so darling!) behind a pillar. Well, it's at such times that I just LOVE kids, really! The boss rescheduled this class of little darlings to the other foreign teacher. I wish him luck!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I don't just let them do it.

I make sure they don't do it in the first place...hence no book wrestling.
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Derrek



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first day (and first hour) at this high school job, I had no idea what to expect. All I was told was "don't expect much" from the girls in this Junior-level class.

I spent the entire first hour talking, because the girls had never had a male foreign teacher before, and many were massively shy. A great deal of them could barely say, "Hello, what's your name."

There was no book yet (were on order) and the simple lesson I had prepared (which many of my former kindy kids could have handled) was just too much for this shy group of 2nd year girls.

I kept thinking, "Oh my gosh... these poor kids.... they have to endure this boring lesson from a guy they can't even understand."

Things are going good now, though.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
No I don't just let them do it.

I make sure they don't do it in the first place...hence no book wrestling.


So you say to them :"don't do your homework in my lesson" and they reply "yes great one", and promptly put their books in their bags and give you 100% undivided attention?

I say to them "put your homework away" and they say "yes" and continue doing it. I cannot throw them out,deny them candies/coupons, (because they don't care), or do anything basically. I have to physically take their books to stop them. I have zero back up, or disciplinary options. if I do anything, "the parents will complain".
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The replies are tame so far... where are those tales of rage, farce, and comedy? I can't believe I'm the only teacher in korea who has gotten a bit tasty from time to time....Tell the truth, I relish my worst classes in a way, enjoy the challenge, even if the odds are stacked hugely in their favor.
By a strange twist of fate, I have lost my worst class of recent times.. now they all come up to me saying they miss me... strange, like they enjoyed the whole battle/ roman circus act...
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
Homer wrote:
No I don't just let them do it.

I make sure they don't do it in the first place...hence no book wrestling.


So you say to them :"don't do your homework in my lesson" and they reply "yes great one", and promptly put their books in their bags and give you 100% undivided attention?

I say to them "put your homework away" and they say "yes" and continue doing it. I cannot throw them out,deny them candies/coupons, (because they don't care), or do anything basically. I have to physically take their books to stop them. I have zero back up, or disciplinary options. if I do anything, "the parents will complain".



Don't the parents complain when you take the students' textbooks and "twist" them out of shape?

Again this goes back to establishing moral authority. How can you have authority of any kind, when you engage in wrestling matches with the students? Once you stoop to their level, they lose all respect for you as a teacher, and treat you more or less as another student.

I'm with Homer here. When I tell my students to put their homework away, they do it. They may moan and grumble (under their breath) but they do it. As for 100% undivided attention, I can't say...but some of them do a pretty good job faking it.
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
I say to them "put your homework away" and they say "yes" and continue doing it. I cannot throw them out,deny them candies/coupons, (because they don't care), or do anything basically. I have to physically take their books to stop them. I have zero back up, or disciplinary options. if I do anything, "the parents will complain".


It's not a jail. If they don't want to do the work, so be it. You're teaching an after-school class. What would the punishment be if they didnt' come to your class that day? The punishment for them being in your class and not paying attention to you should be the same. If it continues to be a problem on an ongoing basis and the student is falling behind, then contact the parents about it.

Now if they are out distracting other students, then the imaginary line is crossed and things need to be handled.

As was already stated, you've continually done things that removed any and all reasons to respect you which only makes it worse for crowd control later.
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rapier



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gord wrote:
rapier wrote:
I say to them "put your homework away" and they say "yes" and continue doing it. I cannot throw them out,deny them candies/coupons, (because they don't care), or do anything basically. I have to physically take their books to stop them. I have zero back up, or disciplinary options. if I do anything, "the parents will complain".


It's not a jail. If they don't want to do the work, so be it. You're teaching an after-school class. What would the punishment be if they didnt' come to your class that day? The punishment for them being in your class and not paying attention to you should be the same. If it continues to be a problem on an ongoing basis and the student is falling behind, then contact the parents about it.

Now if they are out distracting other students, then the imaginary line is crossed and things need to be handled.

As was already stated, you've continually done things that removed any and all reasons to respect you which only makes it worse for crowd control later.


"contact the parents". I'd love to, but its not an option at my hagwon. The boss doesn't want any negative communication of any sort with the parents. He's totally afraid of the won. The lengths he goes to to please the parents is quite unreal...and always projecting the image that the kids are perfect genius superstars. As I say, I'm not allowed to even throw kids out of my classes. I have the option of calling a Korean teacher in, which I have used, but its fairly innefective as these kids are semi-adult. They know they rule, and nothing can or will be done that they don't like.
I suppose I sympathise- I'd be pretty numb to an English class at the and of a day packed with classes, when I've got heaps of homework to do already, and never have any free time to have fun...
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Mr. Pink



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
The replies are tame so far... where are those tales of rage, farce, and comedy?


Remember not everyone works at a hawgwon...and then not everyone has had crap experiences...

I seriously put most of my bad experiences out of my mind...otherwise I would be doing something other than teaching.
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