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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Too many new teachers?? really? Reply with quote

What happened to the 'glut' of foreign teachers?

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/

There seems to be a lot of PS jobs still available.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine many newbs been turned-off as a result of following:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=176725

Charging newbs for their orientation.
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broken76



Joined: 27 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The charging newbies for orientation is not true or has been changed. EPIK will pay for the orientation. The fees are for dependents who won't be teaching in Korea.

The number of teaching jobs in Korea has not changed but the number of applicants has. Before for 100 jobs you'd have about 90 candidates so the schools would either be picky and pay for it or just hire anyone available. Now for the same 100 job you have roughly 500 candidates. Now all the schools can be picky and choose who they want. You will not find a school that is hiring just anyone now. Even a year ago at this time as long as you had a degree and a pulse you can get a job. Now even the less desirable positions are being picky because they can.
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JD_Tiberius



Joined: 16 Nov 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well things are picking back up in the west, people are getting jobs again so less want to come to Korea.

I'm pretty sure it won't last as many banks *cough* RBS *cough* are still engaging in the same crap that caused this recession in the first place, but I'm hoping that the recovery keeps up until at least the end of the year so there is less competition for teaching places in korea this Autumn.
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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious to see if, with this big influx of teachers who are coming strictly for money, there will be more or less runners. Are people desperate and therefore will endure any crap to keep their job? Or are there more unprepared people who haven't considered difference of culture etc. who will run away?
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

curiousaboutkorea wrote:
I'm curious to see if, with this big influx of teachers who are coming strictly for money, there will be more or less runners. Are people desperate and therefore will endure any crap to keep their job? Or are there more unprepared people who haven't considered difference of culture etc. who will run away?


You're right about the number of runners. Will it increase as new foreign teachers are cheated by rotten hagwons? We will see.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The number of runners might increase if this influx is truly fueled by people who go to Korea for money and have no interest in teaching. Bad hakwons are still there but good hakwons will get the short end of the stick if these money mercs end up arriving in droves.

1997 and the currency meltdown led to such an influx and it was a sad spectacle.

Still, Korea can fix a large part of this problem by making visa requirements a bit more demanding than a B.a. in basket weaving and being a native speaker...
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
curiousaboutkorea wrote:
I'm curious to see if, with this big influx of teachers who are coming strictly for money, there will be more or less runners. Are people desperate and therefore will endure any crap to keep their job? Or are there more unprepared people who haven't considered difference of culture etc. who will run away?


You're right about the number of runners. Will it increase as new foreign teachers are cheated by rotten hagwons? We will see.


Yes, the only reason there are runners is because of bad hagwons. No teacher is ever to be considered at fault for anything.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oskinny1 wrote:
wylies99 wrote:
curiousaboutkorea wrote:
I'm curious to see if, with this big influx of teachers who are coming strictly for money, there will be more or less runners. Are people desperate and therefore will endure any crap to keep their job? Or are there more unprepared people who haven't considered difference of culture etc. who will run away?


You're right about the number of runners. Will it increase as new foreign teachers are cheated by rotten hagwons? We will see.


Yes, the only reason there are runners is because of bad hagwons. No teacher is ever to be considered at fault for anything.


Yes, the only reason there are runners is because of bad foreign teachers. No rotten hagwon is ever to be considered at fault for anything.
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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
oskinny1 wrote:
wylies99 wrote:
curiousaboutkorea wrote:
I'm curious to s