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Power converters for dummies

 
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v88



Joined: 28 Feb 2010
Location: here

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:00 pm    Post subject: Power converters for dummies Reply with quote

Wondering if anyone is well versed with Korean power converters. I need to convert 220v to 120v for a machine that uses 1350W.

1000 KVA equals 1000 watts. Based on that I would use a 2000 KVA converter. However the site seems to be saying that in order to use a 500 watt appliance safely I should use a 1000 KVA unit. Meaning that I should get the 3000 KVA unit instead.

Anyone have much experience with Korean power converters?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your numbers are off. 2000 watts = 2kva not 2000 kva.
volts * amps = watts. k = kilo = 1000. 2 k(ilo)va = 2000 watts

The only problem is the quality of the step down transformer.

If the transformer is light duty then, depending on the peak load from your appliance, you may melt the windings on the transformer (blow it out) when it starts up.

Two issues come into play. Peak loads (what the initial draw is when your appliance fires up) and sustained loads (what it draws to keep running).

If the appliance is something like a motor/compressor then go bigger on the transformer (loads are something like 2700w peak/1350 sustained).

If it is something like a guitar amp then you should be fine (1800w peak/1350 sustained)

You would probably be OK with a 2000 watt (2kva not 2000 kva) transformer powering a 1350 watt electronic device (you still have a 50% buffer for the difference between peak and sustained loads) but not a 1350 watt appliance (you would come up short by about 700 watts at peak loads).

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v88



Joined: 28 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very informative, thank you very much!

Will be getting the 3KVA unit to be on the safe side. Christ that's a beast compared to my old 1KVA unit.

Found a bunch on Gmarket too. A quick search for 변압기 found units up to 5KVA.
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Elbow



Joined: 22 Nov 2011
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the international converter I have from home http://www.batterybank.com/converters/images/adf1600.jpg

and I've realised that on the side with the korean two-pin prong side they are just on a flat surface, though pictures of Korean outlets appear to be in an indented circle in the wall. I've been trying to look online to see how long the pins are supposed to be on normal plugs (to not much luck ) and I'm now concerned that it won't stay in the wall.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elbow wrote:
This is the international converter I have from home http://www.batterybank.com/converters/images/adf1600.jpg

and I've realised that on the side with the korean two-pin prong side they are just on a flat surface, though pictures of Korean outlets appear to be in an indented circle in the wall. I've been trying to look online to see how long the pins are supposed to be on normal plugs (to not much luck ) and I'm now concerned that it won't stay in the wall.


They are NOT a converters (does NOT change voltage).

The little plug adapters will work fine (you can buy them here for 300 won each).
The square ones won't (they won't fit into the recessed sockets)..

Do be aware that if you plug a 110-125VDC into a Korean wall socket with just one of those you will kill your device in about 4 seconds.

IF your device is dual voltage (110-250VAC) then you will be fine.

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Elbow



Joined: 22 Nov 2011
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The package/online info says that it IS a step down converter

http://www.110220volts.com/ADF--1600.html

What I'm worried about is that the pins are only 19 mm or whatever but the face they are on is flat so I feel like it won't stick in the wall.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elbow wrote:
The package/online info says that it IS a step down converter

http://www.110220volts.com/ADF--1600.html

What I'm worried about is that the pins are only 19 mm or whatever but the face they are on is flat so I feel like it won't stick in the wall.


Pretty sure, on closer inspection, that Ttom is right about those adapters not fitting...

You want this one, not the one you linked...

http://www.amazon.com/Travel-Voltage-Converter-Adapter-50-1600/dp/B001R57TD8/ref=pd_sxp_grid_i_0_1

Korean plug pins are around 19mm long and 4mm in diameter with the hexagonal(not square) base, although heavy duty grounded plugs are circular with a ridge on each side. Wall sockets and extension cords have gaps that allow the plugs to fit in fairly snugly. You should know that the adapter goes onto the converter/transformer and then into the wall. It may not be flush with the wall or perfectly snug, but it should work if you have the kit with the hexagonal adapters.
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singerdude



Joined: 18 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a site with a good explanation of voltage requirements for Korea. I realize it's a little OT from the content of this thread, but I thought it might be helpful anyway.

http://www.adaptelec.com/index.php?main_page=document_general_info&products_id=159
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