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Panda
Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:02 pm Post subject: Seoul pledged 10 times as they originally did to Haiti |
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Criticism was heard after Seoul claimed to pledge $ 1 million to Haiti...Is it like attending someone's wedding(funeral) in Korea and getting blamed for being stingy if giving only 10K won ?
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Seoul Pledges $10 Million to Haiti Relief Seoul on Monday pledged US$10 million to help Haiti after a devastating earthquake killed hundreds of thousands in the poverty-stricken island nation. This is 10 times the amount it had originally pledged. The government will raise part of the money from civilian donations.
Foreign Ministry spokesman Kim Young-sun said, "Considering the severity of damage, the possibility of additional humanitarian aid, and the rebuilding and recovery capacity there, the government and the private sector will jointly provide Haiti with a total of $10 million."
"The decision reflects our intention to take an active part in the international community's humanitarian efforts in line with our status as the host country of the upcoming G20 summit," the spokesman added.
A government official said Haiti will first of all get $5 million, in emergency relief aid to recover from earthquake damage, while the remaining $5 million is for mid- and long-term rebuilding and recovery.
Of the amount, the government apparently hopes to raise $2.5-$3 million from the private sector. The first $5 million is to come from the overseas emergency aid budget for this year of $8 million, while the longer-term aid is to come from the budget of the Korea International Cooperation Agency. |
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/01/19/2010011900507.html |
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:28 am Post subject: |
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And they only decided to do it because of their "status" at the G20 summit.  . Korea...where transparency dies.... |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Why do people keep tabs on how much a country gives?
99% of Koreans probably couldn't find Haiti on a map. Hell, they probably couldn't come within 1000 miles of HAiti correctly. What do you expect Koreans to do? Match the US in monetary contribution?
I heard a popular talk show host say it right. He said something like, "Who cares how much russia, China, or other countries give. We are the USA. Haiti is our neighbor. We need to do everything we can to help our neighbor."
I gave 10,000w to the Salvation army guy over Christmas. Is it appropriate for some bystander to say, "Hey! You make over 3 mil a month and you only give 10,000w? You f-ing cheapskate."
Or maybe the donation collector should berate people because they didn't match a 100,000w donation some other person put in.
You people who want to keep tabs on charity and call out countries on the amounts they give are truely low. |
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| Well, the problem is that Korea is always going on ad nauseum about wanting to be "respected" by the world community; about being a "world player." Yet, when it comes time to prove it, time to man up, well, they come up soft. So, next time a movie like 2012 comes out and it mentions countries such as Japan and China, don't moan about Korea being left out. If you want respect, you have to earn it. And 1m or 10m ain't cutting it for a country of their "status." |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:05 am Post subject: |
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| Wishmaster wrote: |
| Well, the problem is that Korea is always going on ad nauseum about wanting to be "respected" by the world community; about being a "world player." Yet, when it comes time to prove it, time to man up, well, they come up soft. So, next time a movie like 2012 comes out and it mentions countries such as Japan and China, don't moan about Korea being left out. If you want respect, you have to earn it. And 1m or 10m ain't cutting it for a country of their "status." |
Oh I see. So, they should use a natural disaster to try and "buy" respect from the world?
I'm sorry, I'd rather Korea earn world respect by other means, than to throw money at Haiti and say "Look at us! Look at us! We gave more per capita than anyone else! Respect us!" |
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:25 am Post subject: |
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You guys will twist around any argument in order to make yourselves appear right...geez...
My first suggestion is that you look up the word, "respect" in the dictionary. You will find that it isn't defined by how many cars you export. It is defined by your actions. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey, Korea is at least giving 10 million. That's 10 times what they were going to give initially. Korea looked very cheap initially, and it realized many would think Korea was being cheap. Granted, they don't have to donate even a farthing or a penny to Haiti. They shouldn't do it because of status and being part of the G20. This should be done to save people. However, other countries think about image, too. People talk about how Obama would look good if he helped. I don't think Obama would focus on looking good, though. Israel's IDF put tons of youtube videos showing that it was helping. Was that marketing? I think so to some extent since the army took a battering, image wise, with the whole Gaza thing. France wants inlufunece in a French speaking country. There will be motives and Korea is being honest about its motives. I don't see much altruism, though, based on the article, but I am glad they are doing it. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey, Korea is at least giving 10 million. That's 10 times what they were going to give initially. Korea looked very cheap initially, and it realized many would think Korea was being cheap. . |
How do you know this? And BTW Germany and China donated the same amount and I don't see you talking about them being cheap.
They gave one million (that was taxpayer money). Then they gave more (but some of that is going to be private sector money) and that could be the reason for the delay. They had to talk to the private sector first and confirm the amount. Isn't that a reasonable assumption? At least as reasonable as yours.
Funny how when giving the 1 million Korea didn't realize it was being cheap but after giving the 1 million AND PROVIDING A RESCUE TEAM ON TOP OF THAT, it suddenly did? |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:32 am Post subject: |
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| Wishmaster wrote: |
| And they only decided to do it because of their "status" at the G20 summit. . Korea...where transparency dies.... |
Give them time. Korea is only just starting to get the idea that advanced nations are expected to be generous to poor ones.
I think when Koreans actually start to give to those less fortunate, then they will lose their historic victim mentality. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Adventurer wrote: |
| Hey, Korea is at least giving 10 million. That's 10 times what they were going to give initially. Korea looked very cheap initially, and it realized many would think Korea was being cheap. . |
How do you know this? And BTW Germany and China donated the same amount and I don't see you talking about them being cheap.
They gave one million (that was taxpayer money). Then they gave more (but some of that is going to be private sector money) and that could be the reason for the delay. They had to talk to the private sector first and confirm the amount. Isn't that a reasonable assumption? At least as reasonable as yours.
Funny how when giving the 1 million Korea didn't realize it was being cheap but after giving the 1 million AND PROVIDING A RESCUE TEAM ON TOP OF THAT, it suddenly did? |
I think it's good that Korea is donating some money. I do think that 1 million from a wealthy state is not a lot of money, but everything is appreciated, I am sure. |
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shinramyun
Joined: 31 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone think its funny because the people who are constantly moaning/crying about korea's 1 million donation seems to be ONLY coming from esl teachers in korea?
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Wishmaster wrote: |
| Well, the problem is that Korea is always going on ad nauseum about wanting to be "respected" by the world community; about being a "world player." Yet, when it comes time to prove it, time to man up, well, they come up soft. So, next time a movie like 2012 comes out and it mentions countries such as Japan and China, don't moan about Korea being left out. If you want respect, you have to earn it. And 1m or 10m ain't cutting it for a country of their "status." |
The way I would like world affairs to go:
Not only South Korea, but also Japan and especially China, and India and Australia as well, ought to lead all efforts in coordinating and responding to events such as the tsunami that hit Indonesia, or potential earthquakes in Japan, for example. Say all East Asia and the eastern part of the so-called Indian ocean world.
In the western hemisphere, the United States, Canada, and others, including major OAS economies, ought to play this role.
The European community, Russia, Turkey, and perhaps India, in at least some cases, ought to play leading roles in western Eurasia, including the Near East, and also Africa. The United States, as an Atlantic power, ought to participate as it did in western Europe during and after the Second World War.
On top of this regional structure, we meet in the UN -- a more selective, adults-only UN that throws out the garbage (the posturers who make it into an antiAmerican, antiIsraeli, etc., forum).
So, in any case, I do not fault the South Koreans for not contributing more in Haiti. I would have liked to see them play a much higher-profile part in the tsunami and in future East Asian and Indian ocean world crises, though. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Wishmaster wrote: |
| Well, the problem is that Korea is always going on ad nauseum about wanting to be "respected" by the world community; about being a "world player." Yet, when it comes time to prove it, time to man up, well, they come up soft. So, next time a movie like 2012 comes out and it mentions countries such as Japan and China, don't moan about Korea being left out. If you want respect, you have to earn it. And 1m or 10m ain't cutting it for a country of their "status." |
The way I would like world affairs to go:
Not only South Korea, but also Japan and especially China, and India and Australia as well, ought to lead all efforts in coordinating and responding to events such as the tsunami that hit Indonesia, or potential earthquakes in Japan, for example. Say all East Asia and the eastern part of the so-called Indian ocean world.
In the western hemisphere, the United States, Canada, and others, including major OAS economies, ought to play this role.
The European community, Russia, Turkey, and perhaps India, in at least some cases, ought to play leading roles in western Eurasia, including the Near East, and also Africa. The United States, as an Atlantic power, ought to participate as it did in western Europe during and after the Second World War.
On top of this regional structure, we meet in the UN -- a more selective, adults-only UN that throws out the garbage (the posturers who make it into an antiAmerican, antiIsraeli, etc., forum).
So, in any case, I do not fault the South Koreans for not contributing more in Haiti. I would have liked to see them play a much higher-profile part in the tsunami and in future East Asian and Indian ocean world crises, though. |
If you were Sec. State or President of the United States, how would you maneuver to achieve these goals?
I think gone are the days where the U.S. can simply say (with implicit British backing), the Monroe Doctrine stands. And how would it communicate that: our relationship with Europe is paramount, the rest of you guys can sort out your local messes for yourselves. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:12 am Post subject: |
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| Korea will also be sending 200 engineers as soon as the Nat'l Assembly gives their OK. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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didnt leonardo Di caprio send 1 million dollars?
brad and angelina 1.25 million
giselle 1.5 million won..
and god knows how much the other actors sent..
Korea sends 1 million..
then changes it to 10 million...
10th richest economy in the world and thats it..
man countries sure are being cheap!
so what did SAMSUNG , LG, SK send????
naaa they would rather spend 1 billion dollars on lawyers trying to prove they didnt steal patents from Japan. and then LOOSE!
becuase all along they knew they violated the patents just thought their lawyers could get them away with it...
still where was all the news and money for the people of the philipines, china, iran and PNG.. when disaster struck them couple years back... |
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