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Contacting the other teachers given as references by schools

 
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chinook



Joined: 17 Mar 2004
Location: canada

PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 2:59 pm    Post subject: Contacting the other teachers given as references by schools Reply with quote

I got an email from Andrew Lin about Taiwan, even though it was in a response to a resume post about korea. The thing I found concerning is that his email contained people I could email for references, I have done so and I sort of think at least one of them might not be real. Have other people ever doubted the references given? The English in the email was really shoddy. The second email was really impersonal.

do I have to worry that when school's give me references by email from other teachers that they might be faked?
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it happens. That doesn't mean it happened in this case, but it's best to talk to someone on the phone. YOu still can get tricked, but at least you'll know if the guy is real or not.
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, tone of voice and response speed would be much better gauges of sincerity.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think just go with your gut. If your sense that something is wrong then it probably is.
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's kind of awkward being on the other end of this also. At my first job, which was neither hell nor ideal, they had me phone some prospective teachers and stood there in the office while I talked to them. It was awkward telling the truth to these teachers while trying not to sound offensive to the owners and supervisors listening in.
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phaedrus



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best idea would be to ask if you can speak to teachers who have left the school as well as those who still work there. At the very least make sure you talk to all the current teachers and not just the one the boss hand picked to talk to the potential newbie.
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zed wrote:
It's kind of awkward being on the other end of this also. At my first job, which was neither hell nor ideal, they had me phone some prospective teachers and stood there in the office while I talked to them. It was awkward telling the truth to these teachers while trying not to sound offensive to the owners and supervisors listening in.


Yes, I had to do this towards the end of the contract at my first post. The school was nice overall, but my only gripe was the standard of the accomdation. As I liked my boss, I didn't mention it on the phone. When the new teachers arrived, I showed them around and handed them the apartment keys. They didn't look pleased when they saw the apartment. Still, at least they were working for a man who would always pay them on time.
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W.T.Carl



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be very careful. Some schools may require that you give a rosey picture of conditions if you want to get your bonus and/or ticket home. I have even seen DOSs actually lie to people inorder to get them to come. Trust your gut--Caveat Emptor!!!!!!!!
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Neil



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: Tokyo

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had emails from Andrew Lin in the past. To be fair from the emails and one telephone conversation he seemed like a nice enough chap, giving me lots of reasons why Taiwan was a better bet than Korea or Japan and I must admit despite the poor English in the email he sold the country well to me. But he was too vauge about the logistics of the move there, it was along the lines of "fly over on a tourist visa, stay in a hotel for a week and I'll find you a job straight after that".

I contrasted that with my Korean recruiter who sorted out the E-2 letter, airfare and details of the job and I decided that Korea would be a better bet.
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