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dreaded209
Joined: 20 Apr 2009
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject: SOME RECRUITERS WILL NOT ACCEPT UK, AUSTRALIAN or NZ |
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I have just been informed by an agency worker they no longer condsider any applicants from outside U.S.A. or Canada...the boss let me know it was not exactly the case, and it was the school. but it seems that the recruiting agents aren't even looking at applicants outside US and Canada, even if THEIR boss is from outside north america, and an esl teacher.
Sticking to a single applicant base cannot be good for business, especially with all the hagwons closing and governments crackdowns on private education pending in korea and the fact that INTERNATIONAL standard of English is UK/EU english...not gonna be good for Globailisation, tho maybe good for americaniZation.
No offence, I have so many N.American/Canadian Friends, but the INTERNATIONAL standard of English is European/UK English as spoken by Australians, Irish, British, German, Dutch, Italian, etc etc etc alike.
Kinda cutting ourselves off here ain't we?
WIth all the businesses going bust, some agencies seem to want to accelerate their social infrastructure towards that.
Sign of the times I guess...novus ordo seculorum,
Laters
Ed
"stage one, build it up, stage 2 let it fall, stage 3 stand up from behind the screen and move on into the light"-Me
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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i've never seen so many ads for 'females only' before
they can afford to be a bit picky these days |
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Chris_Dixon
Joined: 09 Jan 2008
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Lol Koreans want to learn American English, and it's a huge difference from that spoken in nz or aus . I'm from nz and even had a canadian who had trouble understanding me. They're just giving the market what it wants.
It's only been in the last 5 years that non-Canadian/American people can be hired.
I doubt they will go bust haha |
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dreaded209
Joined: 20 Apr 2009
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Fair points made there people,
but, according to a few online news reports, it seems the government is trying to crack down on the PRIVATE schools, which is why the market is less stable then even last year. less jobs, more requests for female teachers etc
looks like most of the hagwons will be going soon.
good for the tired kids, bad for their education, bad for us who want to honestly go and teach these kids so they can have a better future.
Also, bad for those of us (like me) who are married to korean spouses and are trying to gain decent, lawful emplyment. By decent, I mean choosing a location (due for spousal family) and having decent pay, as opposed to the EPIK etc, where location is by no means certain and the pay is considerably less than private schools, especially when we have a few years experience.
shame... |
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creeper1
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: My prediction |
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My prediction is a thread of minimum 3 pages length where various winners put forth arguments as to why their version of English is "better".  |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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How are the economies in the UK, Australia, and NZ? Has there been a large increase in applicants from those countries, or is it just that so many North Americans are coming over that they have more to choose from? |
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dreaded209
Joined: 20 Apr 2009
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: My prediction |
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creeper1 wrote: |
My prediction is a thread of minimum 3 pages length where various winners put forth arguments as to why their version of English is "better".  |
lol, perhaps we need not go down that road. we all prefer the way we speak ourselves, no doubt. it's natural. People speak differently. I just wish that "some" Recruiters realised that, as the parents, students and riectors seem fine about it in my experience.
Its hard enough trying to find a job to dedicate one's self to without being discriminated against *before* starting work...or even finding it (lol in-joke to those with experience) |
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dreaded209
Joined: 20 Apr 2009
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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bassexpander wrote: |
How are the economies in the UK, Australia, and NZ? Has there been a large increase in applicants from those countries, or is it just that so many North Americans are coming over that they have more to choose from? |
I can speak for the UK, the economy is pretty much the same as it has been for years, little bit less work, but I have heard the flood from the states is due to it being impossible to find work (I am quoting a few american friends there)
Also, due to hisorical, finanical, and political ties to the states, the US tongue is preferred to any other...lol, fire the puns......NOW! |
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blonde researcher
Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Location: Globalizing in Korea for the time being
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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[quote]Also, bad for those of us (like me) who are married to korean spouses and are trying to gain decent, lawful emplyment[/quote]
Are you British? You have worked in Korea before?
You are married to a Korean, and you do not understand the Korean employers and parents preference for hiring North Americans??
The law of supply and demand rules all the time |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Location: Gyeonggi-do
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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I was told by quite a few recruiters that it would be more difficult to place me because I'm British. I lost a couple of jobs to people from the US/Canada when I had thought I was home and dry. If a recruiter can't (or won't) place you there are plenty other recruiters out there. |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Location: Gyeonggi-do
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: My prediction |
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dreaded209 wrote: |
lol, perhaps we need not go down that road. we all prefer the way we speak ourselves, no doubt. it's natural. People speak differently. I just wish that "some" Recruiters realised that, as the parents, students and riectors seem fine about it in my experience. |
If only that were true. In three odd months of searching, it became quickly apparent that schools do prefer Americans. Being British does make it harder to find a job out here. Clearly parents and directors do prefer the American accent for teaching. If recruiters are choosing to stop placing Brits, etc. it's because it makes their job easier and allows for a faster turn over of potential teachers rather than having Brits (or other people with more 'difficult' accents) on their books for longer periods of time. |
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Chris_Dixon
Joined: 09 Jan 2008
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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bassexpander wrote: |
How are the economies in the UK, Australia, and NZ? Has there been a large increase in applicants from those countries, or is it just that so many North Americans are coming over that they have more to choose from? |
Jobs are hard to get in NZ, alittle better in Aus...not sure how its affecting people coming here, but there arent many NZ'ers here really. They dont actively recruit from NZ as far as i know, it was a random find on the internet for me. In Canada, from what ive heard, they proactively seek people to come to Korea. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Also, bad for those of us (like me) who are married to korean spouses and are trying to gain decent, lawful emplyment. By decent, I mean choosing a location (due for spousal family) and having decent pay, as opposed to the EPIK etc, where location is by no means certain and the pay is considerably less than private schools, especially when we have a few years experience |
Hi Dreaded, If you have a CELTA, I'd recommend applying for the British Council in Seoul. They have better pay and conditions than all the Epik, Gepik organisations etc... and they discriminate in favour of Brits |
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DeLaRed
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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morrisonhotel wrote: |
I was told by quite a few recruiters that it would be more difficult to place me because I'm British. I lost a couple of jobs to people from the US/Canada when I had thought I was home and dry. If a recruiter can't (or won't) place you there are plenty other recruiters out there. |
had same experience with one of the so called "better" recruiters - Footprints
Funnily enough, when I was teaching in Japan it was slightly the opposite, they preferred British accents but the ads/recruiters were not as blatant in expressing that like here. |
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hellofaniceguy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:03 am Post subject: |
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morrisonhotel wrote: |
I was told by quite a few recruiters that it would be more difficult to place me because I'm British. I lost a couple of jobs to people from the US/Canada when I had thought I was home and dry. If a recruiter can't (or won't) place you there are plenty other recruiters out there. |
Those recruiters are going to go with the easy money. If placing the North American is easier vs non......
faster money for them. |
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