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Animal lovers, how do you deal with the animal abuse here?

 
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summer33ny



Joined: 10 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:05 pm    Post subject: Animal lovers, how do you deal with the animal abuse here? Reply with quote

I live in the country-side and have seen some truly disgusting things happening to the animals here. I am glad to be leaving here in just 3 more weeks and if anyone asks me what I thought of Korea I will be sure to mention it.

I was wondering if you tried to do anything about any of the abuse you've seen and what came of it?
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mayorgc



Joined: 19 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in the city, so I haven't seen any animals get abused. The neighborhood cat is treated like a king near my apt.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah Crying or Very sad

the mistreatment of animals and abuse of women in public are the things that I have the most difficulty accepting, refuse to assume cultural relativity, am intolerant about, bothers me each and every time, and i speak out about it immediately simply because times i haven't it has eaten me up inside all day

times they are a changing though, as women's rights and an increase in pets is making korean society more sensitive to issues of violence and abuse (related: increased sympathy for other victims, like students at the hands of abusive teachers, caught on video)
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summer33ny



Joined: 10 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well here in the country-side we had a friend take a puppy that a man had said he planned on eating. He rescued the pup and found it a good home, but a few weeks later there was another pup in its place... and well.. you can't just take them all...

There's a dog meat farm nearby, there's dogs tied up being starved, big dogs crammed into filthy cages and never let out.. and directly outside of our apt window there's a boy who abuses his puppies throughout the day--throwing them, kicking them, swinging them by the ears.... I got him on video and sent it to the animal right org in Seoul.. but I doubt anything will come of it.

Sad. Very sad. I can't leave here fast enough...
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ms.catbc



Joined: 11 Jan 2008
Location: Ilsan

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

summer33ny wrote:
Well here in the country-side we had a friend take a puppy that a man had said he planned on eating. He rescued the pup and found it a good home, but a few weeks later there was another pup in its place... and well.. you can't just take them all...

There's a dog meat farm nearby, there's dogs tied up being starved, big dogs crammed into filthy cages and never let out.. and directly outside of our apt window there's a boy who abuses his puppies throughout the day--throwing them, kicking them, swinging them by the ears.... I got him on video and sent it to the animal right org in Seoul.. but I doubt anything will come of it.

Sad. Very sad. I can't leave here fast enough...


I am happy to know that you are being so proactive. You never know, the animal right org could end up doing something.

Has anyone here been to a zoo in Korea? The whole concept of a zoo is quite different. Here it is an exposition of the animal (in depressing crammed boxes) whereas at home it is about the preservation of the species. Zoo's are more like sanctuaries back home.

I went on a field trip with my school to a zoo. Never again. I then took my boyfriend to the zoo in Toronto and he was blown away.
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tokkibunni8



Joined: 13 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I especially like the chained up cats around town Smile
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms.catbc wrote:
summer33ny wrote:
Well here in the country-side we had a friend take a puppy that a man had said he planned on eating. He rescued the pup and found it a good home, but a few weeks later there was another pup in its place... and well.. you can't just take them all...

There's a dog meat farm nearby, there's dogs tied up being starved, big dogs crammed into filthy cages and never let out.. and directly outside of our apt window there's a boy who abuses his puppies throughout the day--throwing them, kicking them, swinging them by the ears.... I got him on video and sent it to the animal right org in Seoul.. but I doubt anything will come of it.

Sad. Very sad. I can't leave here fast enough...


I am happy to know that you are being so proactive. You never know, the animal right org could end up doing something.

Has anyone here been to a zoo in Korea? The whole concept of a zoo is quite different. Here it is an exposition of the animal (in depressing crammed boxes) whereas at home it is about the preservation of the species. Zoo's are more like sanctuaries back home.

I went on a field trip with my school to a zoo. Never again. I then took my boyfriend to the zoo in Toronto and he was blown away.


My Korean ex-girlfriend kept trying to get me to go to "the jew" with her. Now I'm really glad I didn't.
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mayorgc



Joined: 19 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Seoul Grand Park Zoo wasn't that bad. It resembled Vancouver's zoo a little bit.

But fyi, Vancouver's zoo has been under scruitiny the past while for 2 deaths to giraffes and they're being accused of animal abuse/neglect.
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Freeghen



Joined: 01 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The animal abuse in this place infuriates me to no end. It is one of the things I find most difficult about living in this country.
Two days ago I was walking my dog and found a dead cat on the side of the road...and all I can say is that it didn't look like it had been hit by a car.

I have heard someone in my building abusing their dog, when I walk around trying to find out where it is coming from - it stops. I haven't heard it in awhile...I'm not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

Last week I reported an abandoned dog to the animal control and they basically just told me to deal with it (I actually had the guy tell me to find a leash, put it on the abandoned dog and then call him back!!!!) because they are too lazy to come out and put some effort into getting all the strays/abandoned pets off the street and finding homes for them and/or educating people about treating their animals properly and neutering/spaying them. When there are these stray cats and dogs everywhere, people just treat them like vermin and are put in a vulnerable position for abuse.
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do nothing, but instead loudly proclaim that 'it's cultural' and point out that animals are abused in other countries.
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lichtarbeiter



Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

summer33ny wrote:
Well here in the country-side we had a friend take a puppy that a man had said he planned on eating. He rescued the pup and found it a good home, but a few weeks later there was another pup in its place... and well.. you can't just take them all...


Would he have done the same thing if it were a pig?

Dogs aren't intrinsically divine beings. The only reason dog-eating is not tolerated in the west is because of the roll dogs play in our society. Your friend had no right to take that dog.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

redaxe wrote:
ms.catbc wrote:
summer33ny wrote:
Well here in the country-side we had a friend take a puppy that a man had said he planned on eating. He rescued the pup and found it a good home, but a few weeks later there was another pup in its place... and well.. you can't just take them all...

There's a dog meat farm nearby, there's dogs tied up being starved, big dogs crammed into filthy cages and never let out.. and directly outside of our apt window there's a boy who abuses his puppies throughout the day--throwing them, kicking them, swinging them by the ears.... I got him on video and sent it to the animal right org in Seoul.. but I doubt anything will come of it.

Sad. Very sad. I can't leave here fast enough...


I am happy to know that you are being so proactive. You never know, the animal right org could end up doing something.

Has anyone here been to a zoo in Korea? The whole concept of a zoo is quite different. Here it is an exposition of the animal (in depressing crammed boxes) whereas at home it is about the preservation of the species. Zoo's are more like sanctuaries back home.

I went on a field trip with my school to a zoo. Never again. I then took my boyfriend to the zoo in Toronto and he was blown away.


My Korean ex-girlfriend kept trying to get me to go to "the jew" with her. Now I'm really glad I didn't.


also stay away from everland's animal park. really sad.
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n�fara



Joined: 14 Jul 2007
Location: The Island

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lichtarbeiter wrote:


Dogs aren't intrinsically divine beings. The only reason dog-eating is not tolerated in the west is because of the roll dogs play in our society.


Nah, I don't think dogs are divine either. However, canines have been domesticated by humans from many cultures for thousands of years, not just western cultures. This domestication has often involved employing dogs in a number of jobs, whether it is to pull a sled, protect property, herd sheep, assist in hunting, etc. as well as being a companion animal.

Since we are, in fact, employing them, I feel it is our duty to take care of them as any good employer should. Kind of breaking a trust to eat your ally, no?

Same thing goes for horses too. And pigs or other animals, if they are used for something that is not meat production.

(Actually, I don't really like eating any sort of meat at all. Pigs are incredibly intelligent animals, and it seem wrong, but that's just me.)
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Bramble



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Gil wrote:
I do nothing, but instead loudly proclaim that 'it's cultural' and point out that animals are abused in other countries.


It's not cultural, it does happen everywhere, and I've been able to help more animals in Korea than I ever could in my own country. (Still not a lot, but better than zero.)
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Geckoman



Joined: 07 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

summer33ny wrote:
and directly outside of our apt window there's a boy who abuses his puppies throughout the day--throwing them, kicking them, swinging them by the ears.... I got him on video and sent it to the animal right org in Seoul.. but I doubt anything will come of it.


Post the video on Youtube! What are you waiting for?!

We can not underestimate the power of Youtube.

Once you've posted it on Youtube give us the link to it.

Cool
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