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[PatrickGHBusan]

Well this is interesting:

http://populargusts.blogspot.com/2009/11/atek-on-andrea-vandoms-letter-to-nhn.html

This is the type of action that is intelligent, reasoned and free of emotional rants. A clear letter based on company rules asking for clear action by Naver, addressed to the proper people. Well done Ms Vandom on that issue.

Lets see where this goes but if successful it does open the door to other such complaints about online blogs and groups that support hatred. These can include some of the blogs and groups that post base racist crap about Koreans. Door can swing both ways people.

I for one hope the letter gets the naver group shut down. Of course they can always more to another Internet provider.

[optik404]

does this also include DavesESLCafe?

[PatrickGHBusan]

Does what include Daves ESL Cafe?

Letters of complaint?

I am certain that if people complain to the site owner about offensive content, and that if the complaint is well worded and based on rules published by the company that owns the site, that the complaint could get some traction.

[On the other hand]

Well, this can't be framed as an assualt on anyone's right to free speech, since, as you say, all they're doing is asking NAVER to apply its own standing rules.

Personally, though, I really don't know how much this is going to accomplish. You have to take into account the xenophoic mindset that underlies sites like Anti-Spectrum. Obviously, these guys suffer from a pretty serious persecution complex, and if they get their site shut down, it's not likely to result in any sober reconsideration of their position. All it will probably do is confirm them in their view that ESL teachers wield disproportionate power in Korean society. And, as you say, they can just re-start their site somewhere else, only this time around they'll be even angrier, not to mention more convicned of their own heroism, than before.

[PatrickGHBusan]

Very good points on the other hand.

[VFRinterceptor]

The Mayor of Irvine California is Sukhee Kang. He knows about this case and I want everyone to email him and let him know that we want his support!

Mayor Sukhee Kang's email: [email protected]

[VFRinterceptor]

Copy of what I sent to Sukhee Kang
the "here's" in the last paragraph are links to evidence of AES violations.

Honorable Mayor,
I am English teacher living in Korea for the past year. I came across some information regarding a group in Korea that is focused on promoting racism and prejudice against English teachers in Korea called 'Anti-English Spectrum'. Their group is located on Naver.com, the most popular website in Korea. Their group is in direct violation of Navers Terms of Service but Naver has not closed their group.

The NHN Corporation incorporated Naver.com in 1999 and launched the search portal �Naver.� Naver.com has grown to be the fifth most used search engine in the world and the Naver name has gone global with affiliates in Japan, the US and China. In 2006, both of NHN�s original founders, Kim Beom-Su and Moon Tae-Sik, relocated to the United States in order to learn more about the US market.

More on Anti-English Spectrum's past activities can be found here, a look at the messages they've been spreading can be found here, and a closer look at their campaign to link foreign English teachers to AIDS can be found here.

[asylum seeker]

[PatrickGHBusan]

At the end of the day, even if naver removes the offending site, the group will not disband or vanish as on the other hand said.

They can easily find another server or internet provider to host their rancid bile. Of course this group is not as important as it is being made out to be. Their impact is far exagerated by online reports that feed off of each other and create a sort of feeding frenzy that bloats the story into something it has no relation to.

17 000 people (how many of that number are active? How many are just curious onlookers who joined? How many have multiple accounts?) does not make a nation nor does it represent much. Still their bile needs to be mopped off the floor and sanitized...then again so does the bile produced by countless other people online, some of it against Koreans. Will letters be written on that one as well?

[CentralCali]

Well, gee, Pat; for the life of me, I can't seem to recall ever seeing any foreigners orchestrating groups of foreigners to stalk Koreans and to publicly accuse them of breaking the law. I also don't seem to recall the Korean policy makers sitting down with the leader of a group of foreigners and making policy after taking the leader's false accusations into account.

Care to show me where that happened?

[Real Reality]

[chris_J2]

[Shapur]

[Bloopity Bloop]

[On the other hand]