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LexusNexus
Joined: 05 Jul 2007
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 Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: Anti-English Spectrum Update |
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Eccentric weirdos.
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Korea activists target foreign English teachers
A South Korea group uses the Internet and other means to track foreign teachers, in an effort to ferret out illegal or unsavory behavior. The teachers say they're victims of stalkers and rumors.
Yie Eun-woong, volunteer manager of the Seoul-based Anti-English Spectrum, investigates complaints from parents about foreign teachers. Angry teachers groups call him an instigator and a stalker. (John M. Glionna / Los Angeles Times / January 20, 2010)
By John M. Glionna
January 31, 2010
Reporting from Seoul - Sometimes, in his off hours, Yie Eun-woong does a bit of investigative work.
He uses the Internet and other means to track personal data and home addresses of foreign English teachers across South Korea.
Then he follows them, often for weeks at a time, staking out their apartments, taking notes on their contacts and habits.
He wants to know whether they're doing drugs or molesting children.
Yie, a slender 40-year-old who owns a temporary employment agency, says he is only attempting to weed out troublemakers who have no business teaching students in South Korea, or anywhere else.
The volunteer manager of a controversial group known as the Anti-English Spectrum, Yie investigates complaints by South Korean parents, often teaming up with authorities, and turns over information from his efforts for possible prosecution.
Outraged teachers groups call Yie an instigator and a stalker.
Yie waves off the criticism. "It's not stalking, it's following," he said. "There's no law against that."
Since its founding in 2005, critics say, Yie's group has waged an invective-filled nationalistic campaign against the 20,000 foreign-born English teachers in South Korea.
On their website and through fliers, members have spread rumors of a foreign English teacher crime wave. They have alleged that some teachers are knowingly spreading AIDS, speculation that has been reported in the Korean press.
Teacher activists acknowledge that a few foreign English instructors are arrested each year in South Korea -- cases mostly involving the use of marijuana -- but they insist that the rate of such incidents is far lower than for the Korean population itself.
"Why are they following teachers? That's a job for the police," said Dann Gaymer, a spokesman for the Assn. for Teachers of English in Korea. "What this group is up to is something called vigilantism, and I don't like the sound of that."
In November, the president of the teachers group received anonymous e-mails threatening his life and accusing him of committing sex crimes.
"I have organized the KEK (Kill White in Korea)," one e-mail read in part. "We will start to kill and hit [foreigners] from this Christmas. Don't make a fuss. . . . Just get out."
Yie acknowledges that he has been questioned by investigators but denies any involvement in the threats of violence.
"To be honest," he said, "a lot of our group members believe the teachers made this all up."
The debate over foreign English teachers is symbolic of a social shift taking place in a nation that has long prided itself on its racial purity and singular culture, South Korean analysts say.
In less than a decade, the number of foreigners living in South Korea, with a population of nearly 49 million, has doubled to 1.2 million, many of them migrant workers from other Asian nations.
Also included are the foreign English teachers, most from the United States, drawn here by compensation packages that may include as much as $2,500 a month plus free rent and a round-trip ticket to teach a Korean population obsessed with learning from native speakers.
Yie's efforts have the support of some educators who say many foreign teachers lack the skills to run a classroom. |
Link: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-fg-korea-english31-2010jan31,0,4934857.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Fmostviewed+%28L.A.+Times+-+Most+Viewed+Stories%29 |
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PaperTiger
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Rory_Calhoun27
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| he's got his very smart sarah palin glasses, doesn't he? |
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NaraLee
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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ha ha he looks just like a nerdy little stalker |
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Rory_Calhoun27
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Come on, he's just following people.... there's no law against that..... yet.  |
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frankly speaking
Joined: 23 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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I will personally give anyone 1 million won if they can dig up dirt on this guy. Follow him and take photos of him doing anything seedy or immoral. Perhaps one late night he decides to get a rub and tug. 1 million won is yours.
I have no problem with citizens making sure that our youths are protected, but trying to set up stings and other things is over the line. The police can use this guy because he can illegally find things out without probable cause and then the police come in.
I think the real thing is that this guy was engaged to a Korean woman that left him for a foreign male. That is why he is still single.
I just don't know why this guy doesn't also want to stop bad Korean teachers and part time Koreans that make huge profits teaching private lessons, when most of them don't have qualifications either.
One Korean woman told her students (elementary age) when someone says, that sucks, they are talking about oral sex.
Korean:"I lost my job"
English speaker: Sorry to hear that, that really sucks"
Korean:"No, I didn't do that, I was a taxi driver" |
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PaperTiger
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Couldn't you just hire a private investigator? Take up a collection and post your findings. |
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jiberish
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Yie waves off the criticism. "It's not stalking, it's following," he said. "There's no law against that."
lol |
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tigershark
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| He does look like a huge DB that's fo show. |
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LexusNexus
Joined: 05 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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From the OP article:
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| "I have organized the KEK (Kill White in Korea)," one e-mail read in part. "We will start to kill and hit [foreigners] from this Christmas. Don't make a fuss. . . . Just get out." |
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CentralCali
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| frankly speaking wrote: |
| The police can use this guy because he can illegally find things out without probable cause and then the police come in. |
Wouldn't that make him an agent of the police? The first time he pulled this stunt on his own, well, yes, that's just some ol' Joe off the street giving information to the cops. But he's established a pattern of acting for the cops now, hasn't he? |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| frankly speaking wrote: |
| The police can use this guy because he can illegally find things out without probable cause and then the police come in. |
Wouldn't that make him an agent of the police? The first time he pulled this stunt on his own, well, yes, that's just some ol' Joe off the street giving information to the cops. But he's established a pattern of acting for the cops now, hasn't he? |
He has supporters, that's for sure.  |
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DosEquisXX
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:35 am Post subject: |
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I'm sure those investigators are really looking for things when interviewing this guy.
gtfo they want us gone as much as he does |
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broken76
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:52 am Post subject: |
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The guy is defintely a paranoid idiot but every time a foreign teacher is busted for anything it's justifying his attitude.
If he follows a thousand people and and no one breaks the law then even though he may keep it up how many of the 300 members would stick with it. The average person needs fuel to keep the fire burning and unfortunately a handful of foreigners in Korea are more than happy to feed the flames. |
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conrad2
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| broken76 wrote: |
The guy is defintely a paranoid idiot but every time a foreign teacher is busted for anything it's justifying his attitude.
If he follows a thousand people and and no one breaks the law then even though he may keep it up how many of the 300 members would stick with it. The average person needs fuel to keep the fire burning and unfortunately a handful of foreigners in Korea are more than happy to feed the flames. |
Feed the flames to the tune of a crime rate a fraction that of Korean nationals themselves, including Korean teachers. |
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