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Spongebob Squarepants

Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Location: You wanna see my caring face?, ROK
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:50 am Post subject: North Korea: "a nation of racist dwarfs" |
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Read it and weep!
It's harsh, but it's a reminder of what lies just a few miles north of our comfortable 1st world existences.
http://www.slate.com/id/2243112/ |
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Panda

Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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I hope my discussion is not too off the topic...
I am just very tired of reading things telling us how terrible and pervert the country and its leaders are...
What do they want, what do we want them to want?
If we are actually talking about buying off Taleban with $500 million
I mean, after all the doomsdays of fighting, crying, struggling, I am angry at all the stupid politicians and the US government who spent mega trillion dollars in the wars but got nothing. And I am certainly expecting something else that might change the world.
There is nothing we can't buy in the world, it's a matter of price. Kim-Jung Il is such a weak greedy MF, who needs lots of women in bed and hight increase insole and Italian food to make him feel like a king... so what, let's give him money...yeah, he wants respect...let's give him some (fake) respect.
You might think I am naive, but I am from China, a greenhouse for corruption, I witness how you can buy everything from everyone in the country......it's amazing too see how human desires manipulate us equally no matter what status you have......
Laws and justice work, but not in backwaters like North Korea and Afghanistan... I know most of you come from the countries that believe in Superman and Transformers when the situation is out of the control of laws and justice...But I am from a country that honey and money also worked during a war...
That being said: know the enemy and know yourself, and you can fight a hundred battles without a defeat. (<Master Sun's Art of War>)
I am looking forward in the new decade of 2000, things would get changed a little bit. |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| The United States and its partners make up in aid for the huge shortfall in North Korea's food production, but there is not a hint of acknowledgement of this by the authorities, who tell their captive subjects that the bags of grain stenciled with the Stars and Stripes are tribute paid by a frightened America to the Dear Leader. |
I say we end all aid to these folks. What they gonna do about it? |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| The United States and its partners make up in aid for the huge shortfall in North Korea's food production, but there is not a hint of acknowledgement of this by the authorities, who tell their captive subjects that the bags of grain stenciled with the Stars and Stripes are tribute paid by a frightened America to the Dear Leader. |
I say we end all aid to these folks. What they gonna do about it? |
I'm not worried about NK attacking anyone with nukes directly, I'm worried about what their potential customers might do with them. It's been pretty well established that they'll do anything to get the cash necessary to maintain their disgusting rule.
^ edited to acknowledge that everyone already knows what I just wrote - Cpt. Obvious |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:37 am Post subject: |
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I'm not worried about NK attacking anyone with nukes directly, I'm worried about what their potential customers might do with them. It's been pretty well established that they'll do anything to get the cash necessary to maintain their disgusting rule.
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Amen.
Note: Today's Korea Herald said the Nork's economy is bordering on collapse. If true, the crunch time is here. One of my students said something about how the South doesn't want a quick collapse. I said I didn't think they had much say in the matter. |
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Panda

Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| Leslie Cheswyck wrote: |
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| The United States and its partners make up in aid for the huge shortfall in North Korea's food production, but there is not a hint of acknowledgement of this by the authorities, who tell their captive subjects that the bags of grain stenciled with the Stars and Stripes are tribute paid by a frightened America to the Dear Leader. |
I say we end all aid to these folks. What they gonna do about it? |
That is a good point, Leslie
Chosun Ilbo released an editorial the other day regarding the aid startegy Korea government formulated after the big earth quake in China last year, saying the government's aid did not win them the equivalent diplomatic benefits compared to what Japanese government spent and earned...
The US government didn't get a win-win result from the aid it offerred to North Korea ....I would actually say, lots of other countries either (even including South Korea) |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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I know most of you come from the countries that believe in Superman and Transformers when the situation is out of the control of laws and justice...But I am from a country that honey and money also worked during a war...
That being said: know the enemy and know yourself, and you can fight a hundred battles without a defeat. (<Master Sun's Art of War>)
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I agree about the honey and money point. I also approve heartily of quoting Sun Tzu. More Sun Tzu on this board, please!
But setting aside Superman and Transformers against Sun Tzu is the most self-serving comparison I've seen in a long time. Really, I could do it, too from the other side.
But why not compare like to like instead? Such as Avatar versus the Confucius movie. China's wretched cinema industry (small Korea's cinema can compete) couldn't handle Avatar, so it shunted it out of theatres for Confucius. I haven't seen either, so I can't really give much of an opinion.
And to be fair, let's set Sun Tzu alongside Machiavelli, Clausewitz, or the heroes sketched in Plutarch's Lives. The universities in the U.S. are training the future elite on Western classics, which pre-date the American political experiment. Try some of books on the reading list at this college, for example. Very few are American in origin, but Americans read them and treat them as their own cultural heritage all the same. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:07 am Post subject: |
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That being said: know the enemy and know yourself, and you can fight a hundred battles without a defeat. (<Master Sun's Art of War>)
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The Oracle at Delphi told Croesus that 'a great empire will be destroyed' so of course he fought the Persians and was destroyed. 'Know the enemy and know yourself'. Bah, humbug. I can get more specific advice in any daily horoscope in any daily newspaper. Heck, Nancy Reagan's astrologer was more specific. |
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